# NFL Week 11 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 18, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131 "2010-11-18T19:15:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/81 "2010-11-22T00:53:33Z")
As a colts fan, I’d long since prepared myself for the Colts to lose this one. When the score was 31-21 I thought it was pretty much over and that the colts had played well enough that this will at least mean playoffs considering their division looks much weaker than it did 4 weeks ago. BUT, to lose while driving down three late in the forth quarter with an interception while in field goal range is worse. I had gone from prepared to lose to convinced of a win. Grrr. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/82 "2010-11-22T01:14:17Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Well, the Ravens’ victory wasn’t as convincing as expected, and nor was it quite as convincing as the final scoreline suggests. They managed 22 first downs to 9 by the Panthers, and Flacco threw for 300 yards, but it was pretty close until the last quarter, and even then Baltimore’s 2 last-quarter TDs were scored by the defense. > > Ed Reed’s interception was great, and his presence of mind to send a lateral pass to someone in a better position to score the TD was typical of his ability. Also nice to see Ray Lewis run an interception back for a TD. With about 11 minutes left in the 4th I turned to my friend and said, “I can’t believe the Panthers are still in this game.” They were down by 7 at that point. When the Ravens kicked a FG to go up 10 a few minutes later, I headed for the car. While I was walking down the ramp the Ravens scored the 2 fast defensive TDs. St. Pierre had one nice TD toss to David Gettis, but otherwise the offense was so anemic it was really hard to watch. The D did what it could, but the Ravens were just too much. Major props to Ravens fans though. They were out in huge numbers here. We saw large groups who traveled down to Charlotte (some even had commemorative road trip shirts made up.) Lots and lots of purple in the stadium. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/83 "2010-11-22T01:29:35Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Well, I’m judging this as the team that beat the Saints and beat the Patriots. Remember, I ate my words about them being a crap team and all. > > It looks like in the fourth quarter, they gave up a 61 yard drive for one touchdown and then on the next series an 87 yard drive for a second touchdown. > > In Pittsburgh, when the Steelers do that, we call it a meltdown. Maybe in Cleveland, they just call that the fourth quarter. The Browns are so damn good you expect them to win them all. I understand. ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/84 "2010-11-22T02:41:20Z")
Payton Manning almost made me throw up with that last “pass”… He’s losing his cool lately - possibly the loss of Addai? He’d better get it together… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/85 "2010-11-22T02:48:56Z")
His arm was hit by a defender. God forbid he doesn’t win the first 10 games of the season. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/86 "2010-11-22T02:56:17Z")
The Eagles would be running away with this game if the receivers could catch. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/87 "2010-11-22T02:56:28Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Peyton Hillis is the highest jumping 250 pounder on the planet. [I beg to differ](http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d81c18be1/Blount-goes-airborne-on-amazing-TD-run). He also hurdled another guy this week (like he did in Week 9) but you have to go to his [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) fantasy player page to see that for now. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/88 "2010-11-22T03:06:02Z")
I just voted for Steve Johnson on my AFC Pro Bowl ballot. Who saw _that_ coming? ETA: I really, really hate that you can filter the Pro Bowl ballot by team. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/89 "2010-11-22T03:12:30Z")
n/m ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/90 "2010-11-22T03:22:49Z")
An Indy/New England matchup is sort of a no-win situation, because one of them has to win, and that’s disappointing. But it also means that one of them has to lose, and seeing the Indianapolis Professional Football Team throw the ball away with seconds to go when they were in field goal range was very satisfying. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/91 "2010-11-22T03:26:29Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > An Indy/New England matchup is sort of a no-win situation, because one of them has to win, and that’s disappointing. But it also means that one of them has to lose, and seeing the Indianapolis Professional Football Team throw the ball away with seconds to go when they were in field goal range was very satisfying. The “[city] Professional Football Team”, I like that. I might use that term to refer to the illegitimate franchise you root for. Edit: I realize this doesn’t quite work because the name/franchise/etc. changed, but I’m always amused when a fan of the illegitimate entity in Baltimore gets all angsty about Indianpolis getting their team. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/92 "2010-11-22T03:36:15Z")
The Giants look like a totally different offense without Steve Smith. I’m wondering just how much Hakeem Nicks was benefiting from teams rolling coverage to him earlier in the year. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/93 "2010-11-22T04:06:53Z")
I see that clipping can now be called when the defensive player is not at all engaged by any other O-lineman. This is fucking nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/94 "2010-11-22T04:32:48Z")
This game is silly with the double fumbles. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/95 "2010-11-22T04:39:55Z")
Eli, may I suggest that you leave the headfirst dives to the QB wearing green? ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/96 "2010-11-22T04:54:03Z")
A head-first dive would have worked out just fine. It’s the flopping awkwardly sideways like a stroke victim that kills you. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/97 "2010-11-22T04:57:23Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > A head-first dive would have worked out just fine. It’s the flopping awkwardly sideways like a stroke victim that kills you. Yeah, it seemed like he couldn’t decide whether to dive or slide. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/98 "2010-11-22T05:16:01Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Yeah, it seemed like he couldn’t decide whether to dive or slide. which is why it resembled a belly flop. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/99 "2010-11-22T05:17:00Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > I see that clipping can now be called when the defensive player is not at all engaged by any other O-lineman. This is fucking nonsense. Yes, it can. That’s the rule, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131/100 "2010-11-22T05:18:05Z")
That game shouldn’t have ever been in doubt anyway. The Eagles dropped two passes in the endzone (one a difficult catch by Jackson but a ball that hit his hands regardless, the other an absolute gimme by Avant) that would have made the game 21-3. Instead it was 13-3. Connect on those and the entire game changes and likely never gets close. The Eagles are a damned pain in the ass to root for. So many penalties (often complete horseshit though) and so many flaws make them difficult to take seriously. I was stunned that they converted that 4th and 1 in the 4th. Stunned that they iced the game on the ground. This team seems like they can knock out anyone at their best, but get bogged down by bullshit too easily. If they don’t fix the too frequently porous defense and stupid mistakes, this team won’t go anywhere. And the position they’re in demands that they contend. Not fixing this stuff and falling back into the pack would be a disastrous disappointment at this point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/561131.md?page=6)