# NFL Week 11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 18, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423 "2012-11-18T17:23:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/21 "2012-11-18T21:25:16Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Jesus that kind of Packer game is going to wreck havoc on my nerves.

No kidding. Mason Crosby has a definite case of the yips. At least the defense came through when they needed it.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/22 "2012-11-18T21:34:52Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> On top of everything else that’s gone wrong for the Panthers this season, they are now 0 - 10 on the coin toss.

After their “prevent defense” prevented them from winning the game, the Panthers lost their _11th straight_ coin toss heading into OT…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/23 "2012-11-18T21:40:59Z")

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Catch, take 3 steps, drop ball = incomplete pass apparently.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/24 "2012-11-18T21:42:27Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> No kidding. Mason Crosby has a definite case of the yips. At least the defense came through when they needed it.

Crosby needs to get it together before too long. It was not your typical Packer game. They had more rushes than pass attempts and the defense made the difference.

Getting a win in Detroit while missing their best defensive players, their best OT, and their best WR is huge. Great win, but way to hard on my rapidly aging heart.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/25 "2012-11-18T21:44:04Z")

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Haha. “The previous play was confirmed… haha, except, I didn’t review it, cause it wasn’t a reviewable play” - Ed Hocculi.

Oh what a clusterfuck this whole thing is becoming.

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**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/26 "2012-11-18T21:45:22Z")

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Browns getting screwed

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/27 "2012-11-18T21:47:27Z")

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are the panthers even trying to win anymore

fuck my life

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/28 "2012-11-18T21:48:17Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> After their “prevent defense” prevented them from winning the game, the Panthers lost their _11th straight_ coin toss heading into OT…

It wasn’t the prevent defense. They couldn’t have covered the touchdown catch by Jackson any better than they did. That PF call was a bit unlucky, but then the Doug Martin fumble wasn’t so it evened things out.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/29 "2012-11-18T21:49:42Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> If what TJ Ward did there isn’t a legal hit, just fucking shut down the whole fucking nfl and let’s all play tee ball instead.

What happened?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/30 "2012-11-18T21:51:12Z")

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Dallas just beat Cleveland. Houston beats Jax.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/31 "2012-11-18T21:53:37Z")

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Sorry, SenorBeef. I thought the Browns got jobbed.

And while I kinda like going for it on 4th, I didn’t like the Jags call on 4th and 10 at that position on the field. Wonder what the coach was thinking.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/32 "2012-11-18T21:56:17Z")

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Probably that they wouldn’t get the ball back and he didn’t want a tie. Matt Schaub finished with 527 yards and five scores. AJ finished with 14 catches for 273 and the game winning score.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/33 "2012-11-18T22:32:17Z")

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love that RG3 wrecked this week but i have to say, once that qb starts running it’s fair game. tough titties for the iggles.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/34 "2012-11-18T22:40:15Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> What happened?

Defender led with his helmet into the receiver’s helmet.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/35 "2012-11-18T22:42:06Z")

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Except that, you know, their helmets didn’t touch. Defender lead with his shoulder into the receiver’s shoulder. If you can’t make a hit like that to seperate a receiver from the ball, then you simply can’t do that anymore.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/36 "2012-11-18T22:43:49Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It wasn’t the prevent defense. They couldn’t have covered the touchdown catch by Jackson any better than they did. That PF call was a bit unlucky, but then the Doug Martin fumble wasn’t so it evened things out.

Not the winning TD, but the entire second half of the 4th quarter. Big boy football. You can’t play not to lose.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/37 "2012-11-18T23:15:35Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Except that, you know, their helmets didn’t touch. Defender lead with his shoulder into the receiver’s shoulder. If you can’t make a hit like that to seperate a receiver from the ball, then you simply can’t do that anymore.

Helmet-to-helmet was rightly legislated out. But shoulder-to-shoulder is football!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/38 "2012-11-18T23:23:13Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Not the winning TD, but the entire second half of the 4th quarter. Big boy football. You can’t play not to lose.

I don’t know about that. They were throwing on third down, rather than just running the ball to keep the clock moving.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/39 "2012-11-19T00:50:55Z")

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God did the Chargers’ pass protection look terrible.

Also, not that it ended up mattering, but that last Chargers TD when down 14 is exactly the case where you should go for two. At least the extra point covered the 7.5 spread, so hooray!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/641423/40 "2012-11-19T01:07:15Z")

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Yeah, that non-called fumble on miles austin was awful. Just watched it on FNIA.

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