# NFL Week 11 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 15, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581 "2018-11-15T19:52:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/41 "2018-11-19T04:16:28Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > If there’s any player in the league who ought to pull a Vontae Davis, it’d be Eli Manning. He’s already won two Super Bowls, made many millions of dollars, is headed to the Hall of Fame, has played in 14 seasons, and the Giants are going nowhere near the playoffs anytime soon. He’s risking needless injury on every snap. Plus he’s bilked the Giants into paying premium money for barely adequate QB play. But I would officially give up on the HoF if they put Eli in there. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/42 "2018-11-19T04:27:33Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > If there’s any player in the league who ought to pull a Vontae Davis, it’d be Eli Manning. He’s already won two Super Bowls, made many millions of dollars, is headed to the Hall of Fame, has played in 14 seasons, and the Giants are going nowhere near the playoffs anytime soon. He’s risking needless injury on every snap. I don’t think he’s worried about injury. He’s never missed a game due to injury – though he did severely separate his throwing shoulder during a season once, and also played through plantar fasciitis – and his OL is vastly improved with the addition of Jamon Brown a couple weeks ago. I mean, today he went 17 of 18 (94%) for 231 yards, 2 TD, 0 Ints, for a passer rating of 155.79. Kind of hard to want to retire after a game like that. (In fairness to your point, though, he did get sacked 4 times.) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/43 "2018-11-20T01:46:36Z")
Ugly start for the Chiefs. Something like 7 penalties in the first quarter already. They’re way too undisciplined for such a big game. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/44 "2018-11-20T03:02:31Z")
A fairly entertaining first half of MNF. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/45 "2018-11-20T03:05:39Z")
Exciting game, but I couldn’t imagine trying to watch it in real time. 192 penalties later and I am ever thankful for watching on DVR. Now to wait an hour before starting up the second half so I can be sure and FFWD through the endless stoppages. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/46 "2018-11-20T04:15:59Z")
If this is the future of the NFL, then I vote Yes!!! Crazy fun game. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/47 "2018-11-20T04:16:18Z")
Well this is a classic. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/48 "2018-11-20T04:51:40Z")
Holy crap. Bad clock management and it isn’t Reid? ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/49 "2018-11-20T05:06:42Z")
Nice work by the Rams D, tops in fantasy this week. So what if KC scored 51? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/50 "2018-11-20T05:41:53Z")
NFL is turning into the NBA, nice. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/51 "2018-11-20T05:59:20Z")
4 defensive scores. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/52 "2018-11-20T16:20:22Z")
That game was insane. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/53 "2018-11-20T16:29:08Z")
Having missed the first half for choir practice, and knowing I’m biased - how bad was the refereeing? What I assume is mostly Chiefs fans are having a blast with the Twitter hashtag #AllStarRefs, and there was a badly blown illegal motion call (that possibly led to Goff’s rushing TD?) - but beyond that, did the All-Stars have a bad day? It does seem a bad plan to break up a team - I assume that people who work games together regularly get into a rhythm with each other that leads to a better outcome. Adding new people (even if supposed All Stars) seems unlikely to result in a good outcome. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/54 "2018-11-20T16:39:18Z")
Question: were the Chiefs’ 51 points the highest losing score ever in the NFL? (I’m gonna guess Yes.) I know neither the winning score nor the total points sets a record: [Redskins 72, Giants 41, 11/27/1966](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/12/02/the-time-the-redskins-scored-10-touchdowns-and-kicked-a-field-goal-in-the-final-seconds-of-a-72-41-win/?utm_term=.9a314bc533ea), had been the record for total points for many years, and I’m guessing it still is. (The Redskins’ 72 points [wasn’t the record](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_Championship_Game) for most points in a game by one team, even then.) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/55 "2018-11-20T16:45:56Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Question: were the Chiefs’ 51 points the highest losing score ever in the NFL? (I’m gonna guess Yes.) It looks like it, based on [this list of highest scoring NFL games on Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_scoring_NFL_games). Two teams scored 49 in a loss, and three scored 48. ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/56 "2018-11-20T16:46:15Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Question: were the Chiefs’ 51 points the highest losing score ever in the NFL? (I’m gonna guess Yes.) > > I know neither the winning score nor the total points sets a record: [Redskins 72, Giants 41, 11/27/1966](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/12/02/the-time-the-redskins-scored-10-touchdowns-and-kicked-a-field-goal-in-the-final-seconds-of-a-72-41-win/?utm_term=.9a314bc533ea), had been the record for total points for many years, and I’m guessing it still is. (The Redskins’ 72 points [wasn’t the record](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_NFL_Championship_Game) for most points in a game by one team, even then.) I heard somewhere that it was the first game in history where both teams had 50+, which would mean yes, highest losing score ever. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/57 "2018-11-20T20:50:46Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Having missed the first half for choir practice, and knowing I’m biased - how bad was the refereeing? What I assume is mostly Chiefs fans are having a blast with the Twitter hashtag #AllStarRefs, and there was a badly blown illegal motion call (that possibly led to Goff’s rushing TD?) - but beyond that, did the All-Stars have a bad day? > > It does seem a bad plan to break up a team - I assume that people who work games together regularly get into a rhythm with each other that leads to a better outcome. Adding new people (even if supposed All Stars) seems unlikely to result in a good outcome. There were some bad calls but most games have some bad calls. I don’t think it was that much worse than usual. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581/58 "2018-11-25T18:40:06Z")
Very late [new thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=866124) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-11/824581.md?page=2)