# NFL Week 12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956 "2025-11-18T15:45:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/21 "2025-11-23T20:25:28Z")
Colts messing up against KC. 2nd half, a couple of red zone drives, goal to go, and two field goals. You have to drive a stake into KC when you get a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/22 "2025-11-23T20:32:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/23 "2025-11-23T20:34:32Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > You have to drive a stake into KC when you get a chance. Chiefs offense is so inconsistent that it probably won’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/24 "2025-11-23T20:40:12Z")
I just noticed something on the NFL website. Looking at the rushing stats for Seattle: (I removed a couple columns) PLAYER ATT YDS AVG LONG K. WALKER 9 64 7.1 19 Z. CHARBONNET 5 35 7 13 R. SHAHEED 1 5 5 5 J. SMITH-NJIGBA 1 4 4 4 TEAM 16 108 23.1 41 Someone does not know how “average” and “longest” work. (Also, are there any formatting tags or tools to format a table like this?" ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/25 "2025-11-23T21:00:25Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Someone does not know how “average” and “longest” work. I’m not sure I understand the issue with what you showed? It all looks reasonable to me. Edit: oh, wait, the average and long for the team. I get it now. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/26 "2025-11-23T21:02:16Z")
Was the Packers/Vikings game one of the shortest? It was about 2 hours and 45 minutes which seems way shorter than normal. Vikings not taking their (likely futile) 3 time outs I’m sure was factor. Brian ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/27 "2025-11-23T21:07:15Z")
They added the attempts and yards columns, which is correct, but also added the average and max cols, which is not correct 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/28 "2025-11-23T21:08:28Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Edit: oh, wait, the average and long for the team. I get it now. Yep. I can see what happened, but it seems like such a basic mistake to actually get released. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/29 "2025-11-23T21:11:31Z")
see here: > **[Adding a table to your post using markdown](https://meta.discourse.org/t/adding-a-table-to-your-post-using-markdown/66544?tl=en)** > > 🔖 This guide explains how to add tables to your Discourse posts using Markdown. 🙋 Required user level: All users Adding tables to your posts can help present data in a structured and easy-to-read format. This guide will walk you through... | PLAYER | ATT | YDS | AVG | LONG | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | K. WALKER | 9 | 64 | 7.1 | 19 | | Z. CHARBONNET | 5 | 35 | 7 | 13 | | R. SHAHEED | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | | J. SMITH-NJIGBA | 1 | 4 | 4 | 4 | | TEAM | 16 | 108 | 23.1 | 41 | Brian ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/30 "2025-11-23T21:11:53Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Also, are there any formatting tags or tools to format a table like this? > **[Adding a table to your post using markdown](https://meta.discourse.org/t/adding-a-table-to-your-post-using-markdown/66544)** > > 🔖 This guide explains how to add tables to your Discourse posts using Markdown. 🙋 Required user level: All users Adding tables to your posts can help present data in a structured and easy-to-read format. This guide will walk you through... | PLAYER | ATT | YDS | AVG | LONG | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | K. WALKER | 9 | 64 | 7.1 | 19 | | Z. CHARBONNET | 5 | 35 | 7 | 13 | | R. SHAHEED | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | | J. SMITH-NJIGBA | 1 | 4 | 4 | 4 | | TEAM | 16 | 108 | 23.1 | 41 | ```plaintext | PLAYER | ATT | YDS | AVG | LONG | |---|---|---|---|---| | K. WALKER | 9 | 64 | 7.1 | 19 | | Z. CHARBONNET | 5 | 35 | 7 | 13 | | R. SHAHEED | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | | J. SMITH-NJIGBA| 1 | 4 | 4 | 4 | | TEAM | 16 | 108 | 23.1 | 41 | ``` like @N9IWP said ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/31 "2025-11-23T22:19:40Z")
I said it last week, and it bears repeating: The Vikings have a J.J. McCarthy problem. It may well be Max Brosmer time. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/32 "2025-11-23T22:26:27Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Chiefs offense is so inconsistent that it probably won’t matter Chiefs finally found just enough offense to win a close game. But give a whole lotta credit to their defense. The Colts had 3 possessions in the 4th quarter and 1 more in overtime. All 4 possessions were 3-and-out, for a total of 12 yards. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/33 "2025-11-23T22:52:50Z")
The Browns have sacked Geno Smith 114 times this game so that’s fun ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/34 "2025-11-24T00:15:32Z")
Twice today a coach of a team leading by 3 inside of 2 minutes tried to go for the 1st down/touchdown on 4th down, failed, and both times the opposing team came back to tie it with a FG at the end of regulation. Detroit did it earlier against the Giants, and now the Cards vs. the Jags. Eagles not looking like they will be defending diddly squat this year either. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/35 "2025-11-24T00:26:41Z")
Annnnd then Dallas also goes for it (in a tie game this time), and also crap out. Meant to mention a field goal was on the table in each case. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/36 "2025-11-24T00:40:39Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > then Dallas also goes for it (in a tie game this time), and also crap out. That decision I did not understand. Tie game with less than four minutes to play. ETA: although it may work out for the Boys, as they’re back in FG range with less than a minute to go. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/37 "2025-11-24T01:03:29Z")
In the Giants case, they had the ball on Detroits 10 yard line, so a field goal would have been almost certain, and it was 4th and 6 (iirc), not an easy conversion. They really should have taken the three points. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/38 "2025-11-24T01:05:41Z")
Nm, wrong team. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/39 "2025-11-24T01:14:38Z")
The Patriots really have to work on the Tush Push. Also, the injury bug finally bit, and it bit hard. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956/40 "2025-11-24T01:16:17Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The Browns have sacked Geno Smith 114 times this game so that’s fun It was ONLY TEN TIMES. Eighteen QB hits or some such. Raiders heading for relegation (oops, wrong football). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/1024956.md?page=3)