# NFL Week 12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 25, 2010, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861 "2010-11-25T10:44:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/61 "2010-11-28T23:09:05Z")

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Nice work calling a timeout on a 3rd and 18… In order to run a give-up draw. Really fucking stupid. One more Chicago score and this one is done.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/62 "2010-11-28T23:27:14Z")

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That’s ballgame. Damn.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/63 "2010-11-28T23:31:17Z")

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Gotta start recovering some of these fumbles. The Eagles are trying to collapse and we need to help them out.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/64 "2010-11-28T23:38:54Z")

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That was big. Gotta like that, another time consuming offensive possession and we got this one.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/65 "2010-11-28T23:40:01Z")

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Rams are working on getting the road win monkey off their backs.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/66 "2010-11-28T23:42:58Z")

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Stupid, stupid, stupid penalty.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/67 "2010-11-28T23:48:19Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Man, my beloved Panthers can’t catch a fucking break this season. Kasey should have nailed that field goal.

Yep. Plenty of bad luck to go with bad performances. Dismal season. At least we get to look forward to Hurney completely blowing the #1 pick next year!

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/68 "2010-11-28T23:50:25Z")

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That’s a bullshit no call. Sims should have been dinged for 15.

What the FUCK! Sims must have something on those asshole refs. Gets away with a blatant PI.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/69 "2010-11-28T23:53:26Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Er, you kinda caught the break by even having the chance. The game was over. The receiver was down by contact in bounds, yet the officials incorrectly ruled it out of bounds. The 5 seconds left in the game should’ve ran off, game over. It would’ve been an injustice had you made the kick.

I didn’t see it that way at all. The receiver rolled out of bounds on his own before being touched by anyone. If you want to call anything lucky, the fact that they managed to complete a pass with no timeouts and the clock expiring with a rookie QB was what was lucky. They should have won that game.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/70 "2010-11-28T23:57:26Z")

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Though I’m stuck in St. Louis, I still read the Denver Post online. It’s going to be interesting tomorrow to read both sides of this game.

And regardless of my intense and long-standing dislike for the Rams, I’ve got to admit, they’ve got a quarterback who looks like he’s going to turn into the real thing.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/71 "2010-11-28T23:58:22Z")

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If they blow this game…

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/72 "2010-11-28T23:58:23Z")

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Wow. Ricky Williams is still in the NFL?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/73 "2010-11-29T00:00:35Z")

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Julius Peppers is a freak of nature.

Ok, not going for that touchdown is really really stupid.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/74 "2010-11-29T00:02:12Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I didn’t see it that way at all. The receiver rolled out of bounds on his own before being touched by anyone. If you want to call anything lucky, the fact that they managed to complete a pass with no timeouts and the clock expiring with a rookie QB was what was lucky. They should have won that game.

The defender’s leg touched the receiver when he was on the ground before he got out of bounds - and as far as I know, any contact between a defender and a ball carrier when the ball carrier is on the ground is down by contact. So the clock should’ve kept running.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/75 "2010-11-29T00:13:47Z")

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Fuck. Can’t have that, offense should be able to burn this clock though.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/76 "2010-11-29T00:18:06Z")

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Big win. All alone in first place. Put on a clinic today and announced our presence to the league. Bring it.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/77 "2010-11-29T00:34:50Z")

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Can anyone explain what they meant when Johnny Knox “gave himself up” after catching the onside kick attempt?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/78 "2010-11-29T00:35:58Z")

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Can anyone explain why CBS wasn’t able to broadcast the Steelers-Bills overtime?

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/79 "2010-11-29T00:37:53Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Can anyone explain why CBS wasn’t able to broadcast the Steelers-Bills overtime?

Must have been a regional thing - I saw the entire game.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/561861/80 "2010-11-29T00:42:42Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I didn’t see it that way at all. The receiver rolled out of bounds on his own before being touched by anyone. If you want to call anything lucky, the fact that they managed to complete a pass with no timeouts and the clock expiring with a rookie QB was what was lucky. They should have won that game.

> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> The defender’s leg touched the receiver when he was on the ground before he got out of bounds - and as far as I know, any contact between a defender and a ball carrier when the ball carrier is on the ground is down by contact. So the clock should’ve kept running.

The replays I saw didn’t make it at all clear whether or not there was contact prior to the receiver rolling out of bounds, so I think that call could have legitimately gone either way.

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