# NFL Week 12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 22, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789 "2011-11-22T20:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/181 "2011-11-28T01:12:16Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Oh, but there is! Check this shit out. Keep an eye on the left side of the screen right after the Dalton fumble. Simpson drags Fujita out of the pile by his foot and then does an Oscar-worthy flop when Fujita brushes against him…hilariously bad acting and totally soccer-worthy. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmT\_28N4\_Mo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmT_28N4_Mo) > > ETA: Fujita’s reaction is hilarious. His body language says “Oh c’mon, man…really?” That was awesome, the way he goes flying from the slightest shove looks like a cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/182 "2011-11-28T01:17:20Z")
I was going to post a Favre joke, then I found [this](http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/11/should-the-texans-bring-in-brett-favre/) link. At this point, it’s not like Houston has a lot of options. Is Vinny Testaverde still alive? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/183 "2011-11-28T01:18:35Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > You can’t initiate a conversation about Tebow then criticize _everyone else_ for talking about Tebow. _That_ amuse _me_ greatly. I didn’t initiate a conversation about Tebow. The Broncos did that by winning the game. Hell, you guys were going to talk about Tebow no matter what the outcome was. I was expressing amusement at that. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/184 "2011-11-28T01:20:37Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > I didn’t initiate a conversation about Tebow. The Broncos did that by winning the game. Hell, you guys were going to talk about Tebow no matter what the outcome was. I was expressing amusement at that. What is funny about you demonstrating the very behavior for which you’re criticizing others? ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/185 "2011-11-28T01:24:41Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > I didn’t initiate a conversation about Tebow. The Broncos did that by winning the game. Hell, you guys were going to talk about Tebow no matter what the outcome was. I was expressing amusement at that. It was a preemptive Tebowing? ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/186 "2011-11-28T01:27:06Z")
Oh shit, did we just get Tebowed? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/187 "2011-11-28T01:39:31Z")
To be fair, everyone was saying that Tebow was lucky to coincidentally get the start against bad teams, but once he started playing NYJ and SD we’d see the Broncos get stomped. Tebow keeps bumbling himself to a great record. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/188 "2011-11-28T02:01:14Z")
San Diego and New York Jets: 10-12 combined. ---
**Author:** ![Phlint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c89c15/32.png) [@Phlint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlint)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/189 "2011-11-28T02:02:29Z")
I’m not convinced the Jets and Chargers don’t belong in the “bad teams” category. I think it’s more that he’s lucky that he got the start when his defense started to play well. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/190 "2011-11-28T02:02:58Z")
I hope Tebow goes 16-0 against a string of bad teams so we can hear about how insiginficant it is. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/191 "2011-11-28T02:03:10Z")
That non-fumble call on Big Ben was called the exact opposite way in the Bears game last week. WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/192 "2011-11-28T02:06:49Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Oh, but there is! Check this shit out. Keep an eye on the left side of the screen right after the Dalton fumble. Simpson drags Fujita out of the pile by his foot and then does an Oscar-worthy flop when Fujita brushes against him…hilariously bad acting and totally soccer-worthy. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmT\_28N4\_Mo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmT_28N4_Mo) > > ETA: Fujita’s reaction is hilarious. His body language says “Oh c’mon, man…really?” Yup! That’s the one. It’s awesome that he got a flag for that too, but I won’t say anymore lest **Hamlet** come in to pounce upon anyone who may question the omnipotent perfection that is the referee. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/193 "2011-11-28T02:10:09Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > That non-fumble call on Big Ben was called the exact opposite way in the Bears game last week. WTF? Big Ben? What are you talking about? Oh wait, I guess there is an NFL game going on right now. I was wondering why NBC was showing the Iowa Hawkeyes play Rutgers. Makes sense now. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/194 "2011-11-28T02:10:18Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > That non-fumble call on Big Ben was called the exact opposite way in the Bears game last week. WTF? Referenced a past thread, and my memory was a little off here. It was 2 weeks ago, and Cutler had a ball jarred loose and him shoved the ball forward with his wrist in an attempt to pass. Still, the refs interpreted control in the exact opposite way than tonight. This is fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/195 "2011-11-28T02:12:12Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Yup! That’s the one. It’s awesome that he got a flag for that too, but I won’t say anymore lest **Hamlet** come in to pounce upon anyone who may question the omnipotent perfection that is the referee. Boy, that Eagles loss must have hit hard to have you taking driveby potshots at me. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/196 "2011-11-28T02:12:15Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Yup! That’s the one. It’s awesome that he got a flag for that too, but I won’t say anymore lest **Hamlet** come in to pounce upon anyone who may question the omnipotent perfection that is the referee. It was hilarious to see. The league should fine guys for stuff like that, but I doubt they will. We don’t need the players faking things making the refs job even harder since they apparently can’t manage it as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Phlint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c89c15/32.png) [@Phlint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlint)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/197 "2011-11-28T02:13:37Z")
I think the Roethlisberger play should have been a fumble (and I’m a Steelers fan). I think the NFL really needs to do the most they can to remove judgement calls of any type from the hands of the referees; they’re far too inconsistent in their application of the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/198 "2011-11-28T02:14:49Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Boy, that Eagles loss must have hit hard to have you taking driveby potshots at me. Don’t play innocent now, you aren’t fooling anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/199 "2011-11-28T02:17:11Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Don’t play innocent now, you aren’t fooling anyone. If it’s not the Eagles loss, why are you trying so hard to pick a fight with me now? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/200 "2011-11-28T02:17:58Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Yup! That’s the one. It’s awesome that he got a flag for that too, but I won’t say anymore lest **Hamlet** come in to pounce upon anyone who may question the omnipotent perfection that is the referee. Even more hilariously, its now on [NFL.com](http://NFL.com)’s front page under the header “Big Props To This Flop”…[http://www.nfl.com/](http://www.nfl.com/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789.md?page=11)