# NFL Week 12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 22, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789 "2011-11-22T20:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/221 "2011-11-29T15:32:20Z")
ESPN is reporting a two-game suspension for Suh, and that the Jaguars have fired Jack Del Rio. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/222 "2011-11-29T16:17:40Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > ESPN is reporting a two-game suspension for Suh, and that the Jaguars have fired Jack Del Rio. Heh, that post makes them seem like the two are related. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/223 "2011-11-29T16:30:07Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Heh, that post makes them seem like the two are related. 🙂 Butterfly effect. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/224 "2011-11-29T18:22:57Z")
Apparently, Brian Daboll mercilessly hazed and harassed Colt McCoy during his rookie year. > **[McCoy develops thick skin after rookie hazing](https://sports.yahoo.com/ms-silver_colt_mccoy_browns_brian_daboll_112411.html)** > > The Browns and Colt McCoy are struggling. But at least this season, Colt McCoy has a supportive coaching staff in his ear. WTF? It’s this kind of crap that makes me admire McCoy and hope the Browns don’t give up on him too quickly. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/225 "2011-11-29T18:31:30Z")
Yeah, they hated him, both Daboll and Mangini. They would keep him out of the gameplanning sessions on Monday or Tuesday and only feed him the gameplay seperately on Wednesday or Thursday. Pretty ridiculous. I miss Mangini as a game day coach but he ran an extremely dysfunctional locker room. And for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/226 "2011-11-29T18:50:40Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Apparently, Brian Daboll mercilessly hazed and harassed Colt McCoy during his rookie year. > > [NFL News, Expert Analysis, Rumors, Live Updates, & more - Yahoo Sports](http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_colt_mccoy_browns_brian_daboll_112411) > > WTF? It’s this kind of crap that makes me admire McCoy and hope the Browns don’t give up on him too quickly. Bengals, Steelers and Ravens fans are hoping the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/227 "2011-11-29T19:16:50Z")
Enjoy Caleb Hanie. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/228 "2011-11-29T19:59:47Z")
Heh, yeah, that’s the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/229 "2011-11-29T20:07:00Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Boy, Bob Costas hit that one out of the ballpark, if I may mix a metaphor. Well said, Bob. What gets me is it’s usually the second raters who give these performances. The first raters apparently see making a touchdown as routine and don’t feel the need for any excessive celebration. How impressed are we supposed to be by a player who’s jumping around and dancing because he managed to catch a ball? If that’s such a big deal for you, you probably aren’t really up to NFL standards. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/230 "2011-11-29T21:00:20Z")
Act like you’ve been there, boys. Act like you’ve been there. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/231 "2011-11-29T22:17:06Z")
Oh look, Suh is appealing his suspension. He gets to try to convince Art Shell this week. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/232 "2011-11-29T22:21:11Z")
Classy to the last. I bet Schwartz appears as a character witness. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/233 "2011-11-29T22:24:32Z")
Art Shell: “I’m suh-prised. You’re lion right to my face” ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/234 "2011-11-29T22:29:50Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Art Shell: “I’m suh-prised. You’re lion right to my face” :: TWEET!!! :: Illegal Use of the Pun, Gangster Octopus. 15 yard penalty. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/235 "2011-11-29T22:52:41Z")
It’s the end of an era. Ryan Pontbriand, long snapper extraordinaire, has been cut by the Browns. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/236 "2011-11-29T23:01:25Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Art Shell: “I’m suh-prised. You’re lion right to my face” “Suhspension stands.” ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/237 "2011-11-29T23:36:24Z")
ESPN’s reporting that the Texans signed Jake Delhomme. Good luck to them both. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/238 "2011-11-29T23:47:01Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > “Suhspension stands.” :: TWEET!! :: Unsportsmanlike Pun, 15 yards and mandatory ejection. You’re not allowed into this thread for 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/239 "2011-11-30T02:33:01Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Oh look, Suh is appealing his suspension. I’m hoping this yields something along the lines of: “Yes, Mr. Suh, we have carefully reviewed the incident and have concluded that a two-game suspension is unjust. We are recommending a 3-game suspension.” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/240 "2011-11-30T04:59:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The first raters apparently see making a touchdown as routine and don’t feel the need for any excessive celebration. Considering that ridiculously wide-open automatic TD pass that Marcedes Lewis dropped, maybe it’s not all that routine. Of course, I also happen to think geriatrics with a single hand could have made that catch, but that’s besides the point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789.md?page=13)