# NFL Week 12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 22, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789 "2011-11-22T20:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/41 "2011-11-24T18:52:32Z")
Where is annual thread bitching about the sucky Lions always playing on Thanksgiving Day? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/42 "2011-11-24T18:53:32Z")
Roughing the passer!! Hahaha ---
**Author:** ![Miltonyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Miltonyz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miltonyz)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/43 "2011-11-24T18:54:19Z")
Whats the difference between the hit Matthews put on Stafford versus Van den Bosh on Rodgers? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/44 "2011-11-24T18:55:01Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > One was called against Philly last week. You know… I don’t even know what penalty is when they call it. Is it illegal blocking downfield? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/45 "2011-11-24T19:02:31Z")
The refs are ruining this game. Lots of bad calls and over-officiating. The Lions are discovering the downside to having a reputation as a bunch of thugs. ---
**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/46 "2011-11-24T19:12:59Z")
Nickelback really do suck. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/47 "2011-11-24T19:13:34Z")
That half time performance was an embarrassment on a few levels. Was that really worth the payout, Nickleback? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/48 "2011-11-24T19:19:57Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > You know… I don’t even know what penalty is when they call it. Is it illegal blocking downfield? I think it was offensive pass interference ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/49 "2011-11-24T19:30:32Z")
I can’t remember the last time I saw 2 players thrown out of the game in two seperate incidents. But deserved - Suh is a punk. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/50 "2011-11-24T19:30:32Z")
Suh is a fucking thug. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/51 "2011-11-24T19:34:14Z")
Bye bye Suh. Thanks for the second chance. ---
**Author:** ![Miltonyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Miltonyz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miltonyz)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/52 "2011-11-24T19:35:00Z")
He deserved the ejection for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/53 "2011-11-24T19:38:05Z")
After the talking-to he already got from Goodell he ought to be suspended for a game or two in addition to the fine he’s guaranteed to get. I wish I could have seen the look on Goodell’s face when that happened, you know he’s watching the only game on right now. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/54 "2011-11-24T19:42:58Z")
> [@Miltonyz](#): > > Whats the difference between the hit Matthews put on Stafford versus Van den Bosh on Rodgers? Aikman was right; that was a bullshit call. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/55 "2011-11-24T19:46:19Z")
There’s always next year Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![hazynlazy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bb73d2/32.png) [@hazynlazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hazynlazy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/56 "2011-11-24T19:50:49Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > There’s always next year Detroit. Their season is hardly over. Aside from the penalties, they outplayed GB in the first half. They’re in huge trouble without Houston and Delmas in the secondary and Suh up front vs. the best passing offense in the league, but they still have a shot to make the playoffs. Especially if those 3 players return soon. Stafford’s poor play is inexcusable. Not sure if it’s the broken finger or what but he has made a lot of bad throws the past month. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/57 "2011-11-24T20:00:31Z")
WTF is wrong with Suh? The head banging was probably enough to draw a penalty all by itself, but the attempted groin stomp guaranteed it. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/58 "2011-11-24T20:05:23Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > WTF is wrong with Suh? The head banging was probably enough to draw a penalty all by itself, but the attempted groin stomp guaranteed it. Seriously? The guy has some sort of problem. He’s outright mean, and seems incapable of understanding why he can’t be that way. Fines haven’t worked, Goodell talking to him personally didn’t work, so now the NFL has to move on to suspensions. He’d better get his head right or his career will flame out in short order when he misses 5 games a year for disciplinary reasons. Like **mhendo** said, he’s a thug. That’s not a disparaging comment, it’s genuinely what he is. ---
**Author:** ![hazynlazy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bb73d2/32.png) [@hazynlazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hazynlazy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/59 "2011-11-24T20:20:43Z")
Agreed. Suh needs to wake up. Look up the videos of his tackles to Delhomme and Dalton. In both instances, he tried to rip off the QBs head. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789/60 "2011-11-24T20:30:23Z")
The most bizarre thing about Suh is how good he is off the field. Soft spoken, intelligent, comes off as a genuine person with the media. He’s either the world’s greatest con man or he’s a real life Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/603789.md?page=4)