# NFL Week 12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 21, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422 "2013-11-21T13:11:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/21 "2013-11-24T21:15:02Z")

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Lions lose. Bears losing (despite a penalty for tackling the QB), and the Packers tie it up late. I need a rest.

Rams’ TD. Bears defense is awful.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/22 "2013-11-24T21:52:05Z")

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Neither the Viking nor the Packers feel like winning today?

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/23 "2013-11-24T22:01:58Z")

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Panthers were trailing all day, but came back late to win their 8th straight. Converted a 4th and 10 deep in their own territory with 2:30 left. Good win.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/24 "2013-11-24T22:13:43Z")

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lol tie game how embarrassing

it takes a special level of incompetence to achieve that

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/25 "2013-11-24T22:15:18Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Good win.

Aren’t all wins good?

For all the smoke blown up Cam Newton’s ass last week, he was average at best, and Miami didn’t play very well at all. The Panthers defense, once again, won them the game, and Cam will get all the headlines. But a win is a win.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/26 "2013-11-24T22:44:30Z")

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Sure all wins are good, but when you’ve won back to back games against teams considered to be among the best in the league (not sure the 49ers qualify anymore…), and six in a row, a letdown is a real possibility. They played like it in the first half, but came out and won a road game late in the 4th quarter. That’s a good sign, whether it was Cam or the defense that was the main contributor. The defense has been good almost every game. Newton did lead that last drive for the score though, so he gets some credit.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/27 "2013-11-24T23:24:21Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> … against teams considered to be among the best in the league (not sure the 49ers qualify anymore…) …

The way it is looking right now, the 49ers will _have_ to win tomorrow night to hold on to second place in the NFC-W. I mean, they lost to the _Panthers_, how good can they be? 😛

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/28 "2013-11-25T00:47:24Z")

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Is this the first time the overtime rule that each team gets a possession has made a difference in the result?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/29 "2013-11-25T01:15:51Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Is this the first time the overtime rule that each team gets a possession has made a difference in the result?

It was so weird to say that Green bay had the _lead_ in OT.

Man, I was glad the Giants kept going back to the pass, it gave the Cowboy’s defense a chance.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/30 "2013-11-25T02:37:06Z")

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I guess it’s just a habit to reflexively call roughing the passer for Peyton that the ref had to catch himself halfway through.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/31 "2013-11-25T02:48:33Z")

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Dammit Cleveland. The one time I choke back my bile and root for you you let the Steelers back into the race. Stupid Browns.

And this NE/DEN game is CRAZY with all the fumbles. I do expect NE to make a game of it at some point, although the chances of them winning look pretty bad right now. But Brady-san isn’t going to go out like a sucker against his pro-bowl counterpart…is he?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/32 "2013-11-25T03:52:52Z")

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Nah, Brady will make a game of it. I like how the Broncos are in the driver’s seat in the AFC West now that KC lost to the Chargers 🙂

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/33 "2013-11-25T04:02:42Z")

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Uh-oh. NE takes the lead in front of the home crowd. How insane is this game?

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/34 "2013-11-25T04:26:24Z")

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The most unlikely part of the game is that it somehow exceeded the hype

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/35 "2013-11-25T05:11:05Z")

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Belichick taking the wind just saved this game for them twice already.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/36 "2013-11-25T05:13:10Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> The most unlikely part of the game is that it somehow exceeded the hype

> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Belichick taking the wind just saved this game for them twice already.

I think this is the most ‘classic’ football game I’ve seen in a long time…and I still have no idea how it’s going to end.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/37 "2013-11-25T05:16:27Z")

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Un. Fucking. Believable.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/38 "2013-11-25T05:23:12Z")

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A lot of people are going to wake up surprised today.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/39 "2013-11-25T05:31:48Z")

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Called it. Crazy, but entertaining game.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/674422/40 "2013-11-25T05:40:09Z")

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After attending to my duties I finally turned on the tube where I caught the end of the KC/SD game. That finish was enough to make your Sunday afternoon.

Then I watched the Broncos/Pats. What can anybody say? There will be a lot of talk about that game for years to come. If you wrote that into a novel or screenplay you would get laughed at. Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense.

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