# NFL Week 12
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [November 20, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166 "2014-11-20T16:02:58Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/1 "2014-11-20T16:02:58Z")
Thursday
KC -7.5 @ OAK / 42.5
Sunday early
CLE @ ATL -3 / 47
TEN @ PHI -11 / 48.5
DET @ NE -7 / 48
GB -10 @ MIN / 48.5
JAX @ IND -14 / 50.5
CIN @ HOU -1 / 43.5
NYJ @ BUF -4 / 39 (may be delayed)
TB @ CHI -6 / 46
Sunday late
ARI @ SEA -7 / 42
STL @ SD -4.5 / 43.5
MIA @ DEN -7 / 48.5
WAS @ SF -9 / 44
SNF, shockingly an NFC East game
DAL -3 @ NYG / 47.5
MNF
BAL @ NO -3 / 50.5
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### Author:  [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/2 "2014-11-20T16:56:23Z")
They’re offering $10/hr and free tickets to the Buffalo / Jets game for anyone who shows up to shovel out the stadium.
Think it’ll happen? It’s supposed to keep snowing today, tomorrow, then change to RAIN Saturday & Sunday.
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### Author:  [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/3 "2014-11-20T18:59:12Z")
Right now, the Bills are unsure whether they can get the stadium ready for the 11/30 game, forget about this Sunday happening.
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### Author:  [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/4 "2014-11-20T19:00:18Z")
Bills should pay fans to dig people out of their homes, not the stadium.
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### Author:  [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/5 "2014-11-20T21:08:33Z")
On the off chance someone isn’t aware of what’s going on in Buffalo, here’s a [link](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/buffalo-western-new-york-buried-another-wave-snow-n251436).
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### Author:  [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/6 "2014-11-20T23:11:15Z")
> [@JSexton](#):
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> Right now, the Bills are unsure whether they can get the stadium ready for the 11/30 game, forget about this Sunday happening.
Yeah, they’ve officially said [no game in Buffalo this Sunday](http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000431376/article/jetsbills-game-will-not-be-played-sunday-in-buffalo) (duh).
Interesting to note here that the Bills haven’t even been able to get to practices because they have a travel ban in the city. Who knows if they’ll even be able to get out of town to make that game happen? Crazy stuff.
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/7 "2014-11-21T07:49:44Z")
Nine feet of snow is unfathomable.
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### Author:  [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/8 "2014-11-21T08:50:05Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Nine feet of snow is unfathomable.
By 50%.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/9 "2014-11-21T11:19:08Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> By 50%.
Boo.
In other news, the Raiders finally win one. I thought this might be the one they finally win, but I also thought that (being the Raiders) they could find a way to lose in a heartbreaker. Glad to see that didn’t happen. Plus, as a Broncos fan, a Chiefs loss helps with the lead for the AFC West.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/10 "2014-11-21T14:51:11Z")
> [@asterion](#):
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> In other news, the Raiders finally win one. I thought this might be the one they finally win, but I also thought that (being the Raiders) they could find a way to lose in a heartbreaker.
Damned if they didn’t try. They had a couple of younger players (including a very impressive Khalil Mack) celebrating a sack in the Chiefs backfield on 3rd down with 28 seconds left in the game while all the other players were going to the line to start the next play. Luckily for the Raiders, Justin Tuck called a timeout, saving them a penalty. But man did he look pissed.
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### Author:  [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/11 "2014-11-21T19:58:31Z")
The Jets/Buffalo game will now be played in Detroit. Guess it beats having to watch the Lions. 🙂
My friend had the idea of sending the Jets/Buffalo game to LA and telling them “If you want a team in LA, fill the Coliseum!”
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### Author:  [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/12 "2014-11-21T21:03:24Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Damned if they didn’t try. They had a couple of younger players (including a very impressive Khalil Mack) celebrating a sack in the Chiefs backfield on 3rd down with 28 seconds left in the game while all the other players were going to the line to start the next play. Luckily for the Raiders, Justin Tuck called a timeout, saving them a penalty. But man did he look pissed.
That was really great, they look hilarious celebrating back there while the Chiefs line up: [Vine](https://vine.co/v/OJj70WlQP1i)
That loss opens things up the AFC - even Houston would only be a game out of the playoffs with a win this week. Actually now that I look at it, the AFC is surprisingly close to last year. NE, DEN, IND, CIN lead the divisions, with KC, PIT, MIA, SD, BAL (and CLE) fighting for wild cards.
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### Author:  [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/13 "2014-11-21T21:30:56Z")
The Raiders sideline losing their minds is the best part of that.
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### Author:  [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/14 "2014-11-22T21:41:27Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> The Jets/Buffalo game will now be played in Detroit. Guess it beats having to watch the Lions. 🙂
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> My friend had the idea of sending the Jets/Buffalo game to LA and telling them “If you want a team in LA, fill the Coliseum!”
YES! Send it out here instead. Everyone is too lazy to get to the coliseum on time. 😃 But I’d go.
> [@JSexton](#):
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> The Raiders sideline losing their minds is the best part of that.
That was hilarious! I thought Carr’s head was going to pop off! Nice to see them win one. And beat FATANDY. 😃
Hopefully the Eagles won’t be nearly as embarrassing as last week. We blocked two extra points and that’s about it. while Rodgers was performing quarterback surgery hitting every target there was. I realize Dirty Sanchez doesn’t usually win two games in a row. How is he at losing two games in a row?
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/15 "2014-11-23T17:21:20Z")
This week: The Gordoning.
They say they’re going to keep him to 20-30 snaps, which makes no sense. He’s in game shape - the lack of wear and tear means he’s probably the healthiest guy in the league right now. Maybe he doesn’t know the playbook, but how hard would it be to have another receiver tell him what his route is every play? Even if all he did was run streaks, the defense has to account for him, so he’d be worthwhile as a decoy. If they actually only run him out there for less than half the snaps, it’s really dumb.
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/16 "2014-11-23T18:45:56Z")
Browns pass coverage has been fucking amazing these last few games. It was awful the first few games of the year. Apparently picking up a Pettine defense taking 10-12 weeks is a pattern. The difference is huge - from one of the worst to top 3.
Browns run an inside zone pitch like 10 times a game. It’s a very strange play. Don’t think any other team in the NFL runs it.
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### Author:  [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/17 "2014-11-23T19:04:03Z")
Chicago looks fucking lost out there. Jesus.
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### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/18 "2014-11-23T19:11:56Z")
The Lions pass D is beyond Pathetic. Every play there are several guys with no one within 7 yards. They better have a Plan B for the second half, or this will get uggggggly.
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### Author:  [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/19 "2014-11-23T19:36:32Z")
When was the last time a 9-1 team was a touchdown underdog against a 6-4 team?
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-12/705166/20 "2014-11-23T20:28:17Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> Chicago looks fucking lost out there. Jesus.
It’s the Bucs. They’ve now given the Bears two gifts of TD’s.
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