# NFL Week 13 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734 "2011-12-01T19:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/161 "2011-12-05T02:10:38Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I laughed. So did a bunch of overconfident d-bags in Foxboro a couple of years back. In fact, leading up to SB42, who was it that was supposed to be so unbeatable in that NFC Championship game? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/162 "2011-12-05T02:15:24Z")
Holding on 17 there on Ingram’s TD. ---
**Author:** ![UncleNito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@UncleNito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleNito)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/163 "2011-12-05T02:32:26Z")
I was almost thinking it would be better if the Packers lost today, so they don’t think they can play that badly and still win. But I suppose having the experience of winning one late is good to have in their back pockets too. Going on the road and beating a team with its back against the wall, with Hawk and Bishop both out, makes me happy. Six dropped passes does not. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/164 "2011-12-05T02:35:44Z")
That was some horrible play by the injured Bengals defense, and some really, REALLY crappy calls by the officials. Good grief…the non-call on the block in the back on the punt return for a TD right in front of the ref, the phantom face mask, the 45 yard PI call…ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/165 "2011-12-05T02:42:36Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > The notion that the current fuss over Tebow means that Rodgers is under-appreciated seems like quite a reach. Here (for example) we have Yahoo Sports eagerly reporting that [a couple of reasonably good QBs say he’s having the best season ever](http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Brady-and-Warner-agree-Aaron-Rodgers-2011-seas;_ylt=A2KLOzHEINxO.jsAizJNbK5_;_ylu=X3oDMTBmMHFub2M1BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2FjNA--?urn=nfl-wp13098). How much press has Rodger’s “best season ever” gotten compared to the amount of press Tebow has gotten? I realize that intelligent folks recognize Rodgers’ amazing accomplishments, but by and large Tebow is the biggest story out there. And I’m more than happy to have the sideshow taking the press. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/166 "2011-12-05T02:50:28Z")
I’ve never seen so many members of the press jerking off to a QB as they have over Tebow. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/167 "2011-12-05T02:53:00Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > I’ve never seen so many members of the press jerking off to a QB as they have over Tebow. You must have missed the last several seasons of Favre’s “Am I retiring? Am I not? I shall keep you all guessing! Mwuaahahahahaha!” reign. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/168 "2011-12-05T02:54:20Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > I’ve never seen so many members of the press jerking off to a QB as they have over Tebow. You watch weird sports shows. (no, seriously, on the morning ESPN shows you usually see one guy supporting Tebow and everyone else calling him an idiot) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/169 "2011-12-05T02:54:54Z")
I do wonder if the coverage is in part due to how much hatred there is for him. People don’t always turn it off when positive coverage of a player they hate comes up - often they keep watching and rage. But it’s not all positive - there’s a lot of “Could Tebow be for real?” “No, you idiot” type stuff. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/170 "2011-12-05T03:03:29Z")
Madonna is the superbowl halftime show. That’s some edgey stuff in 1986. Bold, NFL. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/171 "2011-12-05T03:05:09Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > You must have missed the last several seasons of Favre’s “Am I retiring? Am I not? I shall keep you all guessing! Mwuaahahahahaha!” reign. I was watching ESPN last week and the injuries Houston has sustained this year at QB. They are down to their third string, and the discussion became “well, who can they get at that position?” Guess who one of the commentators mentioned as a late-season addition. I heard that and thought “Noooo! Don’t say that! If he hears that, Farve is gonna be on a plane to Houston within the hour. Don’t give him any ideas or it will never end!” ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/172 "2011-12-05T03:17:58Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I was watching ESPN last week and the injuries Houston has sustained this year at QB. They are down to their third string, and the discussion became “well, who can they get at that position?” Guess who one of the commentators mentioned as a late-season addition. I heard that and thought “Noooo! Don’t say that! If he hears that, Farve is gonna be on a plane to Houston within the hour. Don’t give him any ideas or it will never end!” Christ, what idiots. I was (and still am) a Favre fan, but the guy is OLD. O.L.D. He couldn’t seriously fill that hole, so I am forced to assume that the commentators were joking. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/173 "2011-12-05T03:18:11Z")
Haha, Detroit player throwing a punch at a guy with the ref in between them. Detroit has really got their thugs under control after that Suh incident. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/174 "2011-12-05T03:28:57Z")
I know some players introduce themselves with their high school rather than their college. But did I hear one player tonight introduce himself by saying what elementary school he went to? And what’s the deal with _The_ Ohio State University? Sure, the definite article is part of its official name but the same is true about other colleges. Why does The Ohio State University make such an issue out of it? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/175 "2011-12-05T04:20:43Z")
The Lions are fucking out of control. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/176 "2011-12-05T04:27:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I know some players introduce themselves with their high school rather than their college. But did I hear one player tonight introduce himself by saying what elementary school he went to? > > And what’s the deal with _The_ Ohio State University? Sure, the definite article is part of its official name but the same is true about other colleges. Why does The Ohio State University make such an issue out of it? Because they’re douchebags. Seriously, after you’ve been in the NFL for more than one year it no longer matters where you got paid to play your college ball. It’s just another opportunity for idiots to “express their individuality”, or as I like to call it “say something really stupid”. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/177 "2011-12-05T04:34:47Z")
Frankly, I’m tired of the whole “have the players state their college” thing. If you’re a rookie, okay. But after that, your team is your NFL team. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/178 "2011-12-05T04:50:42Z")
Green Bay is going to get home field and they’re having a great season, but right now I think New Orleans is playing better. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/179 "2011-12-05T05:05:25Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Green Bay is going to get home field and they’re having a great season, but right now I think New Orleans is playing better. I bleed Black & Gold, but the Saints D is pretty shaky. If the Lions didn’t give up over 100 yards in penalties, this game may have come out differently. The Saints are an offensive machine, but they have to be to compensate for the defense. Give me some magical means of combining this offense with the Dome Patrol from back in the day, and I’ll show you consecutive undefeated seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734/180 "2011-12-05T05:12:05Z")
Green Bay’s defense didn’t shock the world either today, although they do force a bunch of turnovers. We can say for sure that the G-Men got shredded by the Saints and they gave Green Bay a real challenge- although the Giants are usually maddeningly inconsistent anyway. I had a feeling they were going to show up today but I didn’t think they would play so well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/604734.md?page=10)