# NFL Week 13 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 27, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/674870 "2013-11-27T00:46:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/674870/81 "2013-12-04T21:49:39Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Tomlin fined $100,000. That sounds about right. I’m not sure. In terms of dollars, what’s a win worth? What’s the value of avoiding a touchdown at some critical point in a game? I can imagine a coach saying “Well, if the price is $100k, maybe we need to think about when we should deploy this strategy.” ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/674870/82 "2013-12-04T22:09:47Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I don’t know much about Gordon, but Steve Smith wouldn’t happily give up Top Dog status, even if his production doesn’t justify it anymore. Would Gordon be happy as a #2 guy for year or two? > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Smith told Mike & Mike last week that he’s not really a #1 at this point in his career, so I imagine he’d be happy to stop seeing double coverage on every play. I heard more or less the same thing on another podcast. He was very aware and open about the fact that he’s 34 and only has about a season or two left in the league. > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I know this sounds kinda nuts, but I’m still not sold on the Hawks as being a dominant team. > > For instance, I think the Bengals defense would give them fits. Their win over the Saints was impressive but you do get the feeling that it’s 50/50 between them actually coming together and gelling vs them peaking too early. I guess this week’s game will tell. > [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Three players are tied for the most game-winning drives (4th quarter or OT offensive score without losing the lead) - Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, and … Geno Smith! > > Peyton Manning is on pace to break both the single-season passing yards and touchdowns records. Is anyone even talking about it? > > Nick Foles followed up the greatest statistical game by any QB in the history of the NFL with the highest passer rating in a single calendar month by any QB ever. He leads the NFL in QB rating, yards per attempt, and TD%. People are skeptical because he doesn’t pass the eye test (none of his skills pop off the screen), and he’ll come down to earth, but anyone calling him a game manager is a lunatic. - Without losing the lead, or overtaking a lead? Or am I just confused by semantics? - I’m 10-1 in one of my fantasy leagues this year and my lone loss came in week 1 when Payton made it hail touchdowns. Breaking records is nice but he’s certainly not putting up the video game numbers he was in the first 4-5 games so that’s why I imagine there isn’t as much talk. Plus it’s no secret that it’s a passers’ league and passers are going to pass. - So should the question be if Nick Foles is Philip Rivers good or Drew Brees good? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/674870/83 "2013-12-05T00:10:49Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He was lucky as hell to have one called back on a phantom defensive holding call this week He’s been even luckier than that. I can think of at least three other passes that should have been picked off from the top of my head. It’s part of the reason people just expect him to crash and burn (that and that nobody has ever done what he’s doing). Even Eagles fans are kinda stepping back from it, refusing to get too excited or invested. > [@pancakes3](#): > > - Without losing the lead, or overtaking a lead? Or am I just confused by semantics? This counts drives that result in a score which takes the lead, and that lead was never relinquished again. > [@](#): > > - So should the question be if Nick Foles is Philip Rivers good or Drew Brees good? Yes, please. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/674870.md?page=4)