# NFL Week 13 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 26, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719 "2014-11-26T23:19:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/1 "2014-11-26T23:19:19Z")
Thanksgiving 12:30ET CHI @ DET -7 / 47 4:30ET PHI @ DAL -3 / 55.5 8:30 ET SEA @ SF -1 / 39.5 Sunday early WAS @ IND -10 / 51 TEN @ HOU -6.5 / 43 CLE @ BUF -.25 / 41 SD @ BAL -6 / 46 NYG @ JAX +2.5 / 44.5 CIN @ TB +3.5 / 44 OAK @ STL -7 / 42.5 NO @ PIT -4.5 / 54 CAR @ MIN -2.5 / 43 Sunday late ARI @ ATL +2.5 / 44.5 NE @ GB -3 / 58 SNF DEN @ KC +2 / 49.5 MNF MIA @ NYJ +6.5 / 41.5 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/2 "2014-11-26T23:48:00Z")
Josh Gordon looked every bit as dominant as he was all last year despite missing the first 10 weeks of the season and being unable to practice with his teammates. He put up a mere 8 rec/120 yards, which is a fairly middling effort from him, but that’s mostly because Hoyer repeatedly botched throws to him when Gordon was wide open. An only slightly better effort from Hoyer and Gordon goes over 200 easily. Man among boys out there. All teams in the AFC North have 7 wins. Cinci is in the lead since they have a tie instead of a loss. Cinci plays: @TB, PIT, @CLE, DEN, @PIT. Cleveland: @BUF, IND, CIN, @CAR, @BAL. Pittsburgh: NO, @CIN, @ATL, KC, CIN Crackmore: SD, @MIA, JAX, @HOU, CLE Those are some huge divisional games to finish out the schedule. The division really is up for grabs. There’s a good chance it comes down to the final week when CLE/BAL and PIT/CIN play. The Browns picked a shitty year to be pretty decent in, when you might have to have 11 wins to have a shit at the wildcard. Meanwhile 6 wins might win you the NFC South. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/3 "2014-11-27T18:03:07Z")
Bears at the Lions for the early game today. CBS is broadcasting. I thought FOX has the NFC contract. Usually an AFC team is either playing at Dallas or at Detroit and CBS televises that game. Anyone know the rest of the story? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/4 "2014-11-27T20:42:48Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Meanwhile 6 wins might win you the NFC South. I’d almost rather see the Saints skip the playoffs and draft in the top ten. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/5 "2014-11-27T20:45:24Z")
Playoff teams draft somewhere in the 20-32 range regardless of record. Record is a tiebreaker for teams that were eliminated in the same round. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/6 "2014-11-27T20:47:28Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Playoff teams draft somewhere in the 20-32 range regardless of record. Record is a tiebreaker for teams that were eliminated in the same round. I figured it out and deleted the question, but thanks for the answer anyway. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/7 "2014-11-27T22:01:07Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Bears at the Lions for the early game today. CBS is broadcasting. > > I thought FOX has the NFC contract. Usually an AFC team is either playing at Dallas or at Detroit and CBS televises that game. > > Anyone know the rest of the story? It’s a recent policy called “cross-flexing.” [Link](http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000343369/article/2014-nfl-schedule-flex-games-can-now-start-in-week-5). > [@](#): > > The “cross flex” mechanism will serve a similar purpose. Select games can be flexed between CBS and FOX. In the past, a game with two NFC teams had to be on FOX and a game with two AFC teams had to be on CBS. Now, the league can theoretically move an all-NFC game to CBS or an all-AFC game to FOX in select cases. This will help balance out the television schedule, especially in a week where one network has all the most intriguing games. I think the fact that CBS got an “extra” game on Thursday nights for the first third of the season played into this. The idea being that the NFL wanted to put good matchups in those Thursday night games, potentially “robbing” Fox of the good NFC matchups that got put on Thursday. So cross-flexing allows them to balance it out. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/8 "2014-11-27T22:10:35Z")
Come on, Eagles!! Fletcher, you a as slow as molasses in January. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/9 "2014-11-27T22:34:07Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > It’s a recent policy called “cross-flexing.” [Link](http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000343369/article/2014-nfl-schedule-flex-games-can-now-start-in-week-5). > > I think the fact that CBS got an “extra” game on Thursday nights for the first third of the season played into this. The idea being that the NFL wanted to put good matchups in those Thursday night games, potentially “robbing” Fox of the good NFC matchups that got put on Thursday. So cross-flexing allows them to balance it out. Thanks **Ellis Dee**. I don’t pay much attention to NFL games anymore but I knew the Bears/Lions was not a game I expected to see on CBS. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/10 "2014-11-27T23:57:59Z")
PICK!! ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/11 "2014-11-28T01:29:57Z")
Why are the Cowboys so terrible in nationally televised division games? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/12 "2014-11-28T02:41:42Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Why are the Cowboys so terrible in nationally televised division games? Didn’t they just look good last week against the Giant on SNF? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/13 "2014-11-28T03:05:26Z")
(sings) Mowtown Philly back again… [Locrian dances, moves his fat philly ass…] As a consolation, just like last week, I load the philly fan eagles page and all anyone wants to talk about is… TWO TURNOVERS!!! Sheesh. We fucking WON, fellow Philly douchebags. That’s the thing, we don’t hate any other team more than our own. So, WHOOOO Eagles and suspend Harris! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/14 "2014-11-28T06:54:44Z")
There was a holding call that kind of peeved me. D-lineman grabs the RB guy coming across out of the backfield, then lets him go to go after the QB. As I saw it, he was preparing to tackle the ball carrier, then realized the RB did not have the ball. These guys have to react to an offense that is trying to fool them, AFAICT, the league wants points, not so much of the D. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/15 "2014-11-29T05:37:29Z")
Fire Greg Roman! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/16 "2014-11-30T17:17:29Z")
Not feeling good about the Browns/Bills games. In addition to the 4 huge d-line injuries, Dansby, Gipson, and Gilbert are out. I think the defense is running 2/3 starters at this point, depending on whether you consider the starting nickelback moving to the outside as a starter. And their D-line is top notch. The backup center wilts under good defensive line play and the whole unit gets crushed. Ends up wrecking our whole inside zone game. It’s how Jacksonville beat us. Every game is critical from here on out for every team in the AFC North, but while I think at full health we’d just blow through buffalo, the injuries we’ve got are pretty much a worst case scenario. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/17 "2014-11-30T19:27:25Z")
Buffalo and Cleveland have had a lot of 6-3 type games. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/18 "2014-11-30T20:42:05Z")
Johnny Time. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/19 "2014-11-30T21:34:18Z")
Atlanta leads its division with a 4-7 record! Can I get a mighty WTF? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719/20 "2014-11-30T21:35:02Z")
Those four wins were all division games too. The NFC South division leader has 0 wins outside the division going into week 13. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-13/705719.md?page=2)