# NFL Week 14 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 8, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445 "2010-12-08T18:31:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/81 "2010-12-12T21:25:25Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Right, I was thinking if the Packers beat the Bears in the last game and they end in a tie. Since The Bears already won one, it would go to the Division. Which would means the bears would win if the beat the Vikings because they would be up a game. Correct. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/82 "2010-12-12T21:31:24Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I don’t know why the coaching staff can only fucking coach well against good teams. How is the same team that manhandled the Saints and Patriots with aggressive, ballsy playcalling the team that decides to kick a field goal from the 1 inch line after Hillis had just ran 7 straight times across the field? And then they decide well we’re running really well, so let’s try 19 straight 3 yard passes. And why the fuck is Jake fucking Delhomme in there when Wallce is perfectly competant? > > The playcalling was so atrociously bad it’s just stunning. Complete jekyll and hyde team. Some of the best, ballsiest playcalling I see against good teams, and some of the most retarded shit against bad ones. I told you not to underestimate the Bills! Those guys can play but can rarely finish, a theme that you as a Browns fan should be all too familiar with. Sorry about that mid-season glimmer of hope. I wish the Bengals even had that, as they are largely in the same boat, minus a studly rushing game, which I am still trying to figure out where it went. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/83 "2010-12-12T21:34:10Z")
I’m not trying to pile on the Bengals but I don’t think we’re in the same boat at all. The Browns have had the hardest or second hardest schedule in the league and have a net scoring difference of like -14. They’re on the rise. The Bengals… not so much. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/84 "2010-12-12T21:50:01Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I’m not trying to pile on the Bengals but I don’t think we’re in the same boat at all. The Browns have had the hardest or second hardest schedule in the league and have a net scoring difference of like -14. They’re on the rise. The Bengals… not so much. We play the Ravens twice, the Steelers twice, the Colts, the Saints, the Chargers, the Patriots, the Bucs and the Jets…how is that not a hard schedule? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/85 "2010-12-12T21:52:35Z")
You had a hard schedule too, but you got your ass kicked pretty frequently. The Browns were in the game until the last drive in every single loss this year but one. You had way more games where you just flat out got your ass kicked. Colt McCoy looks like he may be a rising star (I’m not as optimistic as most though), whereas Carson Palmer has clearly lost it. The Browns are young and motivated and learning to win, the Bengals seem defeated. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/86 "2010-12-12T22:06:51Z")
New England has bigfoot on their team? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/87 "2010-12-12T22:09:02Z")
The rest of the league can thank the Browns for humiliating the Pats, because after that game they decided to FUCK ALL OF YOU IN HALF. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/88 "2010-12-12T22:18:20Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > Any chance that was actually a first down? (I didn’t see the game, but just found a site where one of the comments seemed to indicate this might have been the case.) That’s what the Fox postgame crew said, but I went back and checked and if anything it should have been spotted as an 8 yard gain, not 9+. Also, the chain gang didn’t move the chains after the play, and the down marker on one side of the field went to 2nd, and the one on the other side stayed on 1st. So it was a clusterfuck all the way around. I can’t see if the officials ever signaled for a first down, but they cut away to a shot of the sidelines so it might have been then. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/89 "2010-12-12T22:28:01Z")
Does anyone have an answer for the whistle blow/fumble thing in post #71? That wasn’t just venting, I really don’t know wtf happened. I mean, with the refs blowing their whistles and waving their arms for 4 seconds with the ball tumbling, if a Browns player had dove in there and creamed a Bills player to get possession of the ball, it would’ve been a penalty, right? How the hell can they give the ball to the Bills then? Wouldn’t it be, if anything, ruled a fumble but not able to award possession for the Bills so it becomes the Browns ball at the spot of the fumble? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/90 "2010-12-12T22:28:17Z")
I know the Lions are better than thier record indicates, but that was just plain awful. It is very unlikely the Pack will be in the payoffs and given thier performance today they don’t deserve to be. Brian (shovelled snow intead of watching some of the game - delaing with 20 inch drifts was way less depressing) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/91 "2010-12-12T22:29:59Z")
Well, my post Packer loss funk is somewhat alleviated by the whuppin’ the Patsies are putting on the Bears. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/92 "2010-12-12T22:34:26Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Does anyone have an answer for the whistle blow/fumble thing in post #71? That wasn’t just venting, I really don’t know wtf happened. > > I mean, with the refs blowing their whistles and waving their arms for 4 seconds with the ball tumbling, if a Browns player had dove in there and creamed a Bills player to get possession of the ball, it would’ve been a penalty, right? How the hell can they give the ball to the Bills then? Wouldn’t it be, if anything, ruled a fumble but not able to award possession for the Bills so it becomes the Browns ball at the spot of the fumble? Didn’t they change the rule last season so a loose ball is always live now? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/93 "2010-12-12T22:35:53Z")
I don’t think so. I mean… how can that be true? When the whistle blows, are you stopping or are you supposed to play full speed to try to take the ball back? Maybe in the case where it happens really fast, like when the runner is going down and the ball bounces into the opponent’s team laugh and the whistle is a quarter second early… but this was seriously like… recovered 3 seconds after a very emphatic whistle. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/94 "2010-12-12T22:38:51Z")
No idea then. In other news, apparently Kyle Orton is determined to let everyone know that Weeks 1-11 were flukes. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/95 "2010-12-12T22:49:30Z")
He needs his McDaniels. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/96 "2010-12-12T23:21:40Z")
Cardinals looking good in a beatdown of the Broncos. Skelton looks like the best of the Cards QBs so far this year. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/97 "2010-12-12T23:24:52Z")
Setting the bar high. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/98 "2010-12-12T23:29:41Z")
Someone forgot to tell the Patriots it was snowing. Unfortunately, the game got so out of hand for the Bears that CBS bailed on the game and is now showing me Jets-Fins. Dammit! Not that it makes a difference, but I think that play where they said the receiver was sitting on the defender’s foot when the ball was stripped was a bad call, but maybe the replay was too inconclusive to overturn it. ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/99 "2010-12-12T23:31:31Z")
You don’t want to keep watching anyway, NE just intercepted. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445/100 "2010-12-12T23:36:23Z")
We’ll take the win. Cards have a fairly easy schedule for the rest of the year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/563445.md?page=6)