# NFL Week 14 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 4, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984 "2012-12-04T19:21:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/1 "2012-12-04T19:21:36Z")
Here’s the slate TNF DEN@OAK SUN 1 PM ET **STL** @BUFF **DALL** @CIN KC@CLEV TENN@IND CHI@ **MINN** PHI@ **TB** BAL@ **WAS** ATL@CAR NYJ@JAX SD@PIT 4 PM ET MIA@SF ARI@SEA NO@NYG SNF DET@GB MNF HOU@NE Teams in bold in must-win mode (IMO) What can be clinched? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/2 "2012-12-04T19:50:07Z")
Baltimore clinches a berth with: win+losses by PIT and CIN SF clinches a berth with: win+loses by ALL the teams in bold above. ---
**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/3 "2012-12-04T21:14:23Z")
Is there a line on the NE & Houston MondayNightFootball game yet (can’t check from work)? ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/4 "2012-12-04T21:43:32Z")
The Browns will win their 3rd straight game, I just hope it’s not enough to keep Shurmur’s job. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/5 "2012-12-04T21:48:45Z")
I don’t see Washington as having a must win this week. Their final three are very winnable and the Giants have a tough remaining schedule. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/6 "2012-12-04T21:49:26Z")
If they can win out and hit 8-8, I’d be ok with Shurmur keeping his job. I mean, he’d have to be doing something right. Pretty unlikely. Not sure how I’d feel about 7-9, guess it depends on how it went down. I’d like to retain the whole defensive staff. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/7 "2012-12-04T22:18:12Z")
That Houston/NE game should be great. Both have clinched their divisions, but both will be fighting for seeding order. The Texans have the inside track to a first-round bye but NE needs to keep the pressure on Baltimore and Denver. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/8 "2012-12-04T22:33:13Z")
The current spread for MNF is currently New England -4. The Texans haven’t clinched their division, by the way. They can’t guarantee it even with a win over NE this Monday, because Indy is only 3 games back and they haven’t played head to head yet. To clinch their division this week, Houston needs to win and have Indy lose (to Tennessee, which is unlikely). To clinch a first round bye, one of Denver and Baltimore needs to lose in addition to the Houston win and Indy loss. To clinch home field advantage, Houston needs to win and Indy, Denver, and Baltimore all have to lose. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/9 "2012-12-04T23:16:47Z")
I just need the Bengals to win another game, this one against Dallas, who’s also fighting for their playoff lives. Big game for both teams. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/10 "2012-12-05T00:29:26Z")
**Gangster** -IMO 9-7 won’t get it done. (in this NFC I could be proven wrong) ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/11 "2012-12-05T03:38:31Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > **Gangster** -IMO 9-7 won’t get it done. (in this NFC I could be proven wrong) It’s unlikely the Giants will go 3-1 with their schedule and 4-0 is unlikely for Washington or Dallas. If Washington loses a game, this is the one they can lose. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/12 "2012-12-05T14:43:26Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The Texans haven’t clinched their division, by the way. You’re right of course, they’ve only clinched a playoff spot. I knew that but had a brain fart. Still looking forward to the game. Also wondering which Tennessee team will show up at Indy. I was at the Titans-Colts game a few weeks ago that went to OT, so I know that Tenn can hang with Indy. But this game is in Indy, so I don’t expect it to be as close. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/13 "2012-12-05T15:02:41Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > You’re right of course, they’ve only clinched a playoff spot. I knew that but had a brain fart. Still looking forward to the game. > > Also wondering which Tennessee team will show up at Indy. I was at the Titans-Colts game a few weeks ago that went to OT, so I know that Tenn can hang with Indy. But this game is in Indy, so I don’t expect it to be as close. I hope Tennessee can pull one out on the Colts. I need them and the Steelers to lose as much as possible! ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/14 "2012-12-05T15:18:40Z")
Yeah, I’m hoping Jake Locker goes superman for this one game and Tom Brady deflate a bit after that monster 6 game win streak. I’d rather have Houston lock up home field advantage early and let their players recover a bit. That team is beat to hell and back. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/15 "2012-12-05T17:09:22Z")
Cowboys remaining Schedule @Cincinnati Pittsburgh New Orleans @Washington Giants remaining schedule New Orleans @ Atlanta @ Baltimore Philadelpia Redskins Remaining Schedule Baltimore @ Cleveland @ Philadelphia Dallas IMO, Washington has the easiest of the three schedules, but nothing dramatic. Still it is easy to see potentially 2 or more losses for the Giants and the Redskins have the better division record (right now). So clearly this is not a must-win for the Skins or the Cowboys this week. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/16 "2012-12-07T04:06:50Z")
Good lord I don’t get to watch the Raiders but very rarely, but are their receivers always this bad? Given just what I’ve seen tonight, this could easily be the worst group in the league. Even the Chiefs have Dwayne Bowe. Heyward-Bey has wheels, but he can’t catch for shit. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/17 "2012-12-07T04:14:41Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Good lord I don’t get to watch the Raiders but very rarely, but are their receivers always this bad? Given just what I’ve seen tonight, this could easily be the worst group in the league. Even the Chiefs have Dwayne Bowe. Heyward-Bey has wheels, but he can’t catch for shit. Poor widdle Carson Palmer getting his wish. Thanks for the gift that keeps giving Raiders! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/18 "2012-12-07T13:57:52Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Poor widdle Carson Palmer getting his wish. Thanks for the gift that keeps giving Raiders! Were I a conspiracy minded person, I just may conclude his current employment with the Bengals was the result of his disastrous (for the Raiders) decision to massively overpay for Carson Palmer. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/19 "2012-12-07T15:05:41Z")
> [@Labtrash](#): > > Is there a line on the NE & Houston MondayNightFootball game yet (can’t check from work)? Thanks for posting the schedule, **etv78**. Here are the [lines](http://www.vegas.com/gaming/): @Washington **-2.5** Baltimore @Cleveland **-6.5** Kansas City @Pittsburgh **-7.5** San Diego @Indianapolis **-5.5** Tennessee NY Jets **-2.5** @Jacksonville Chicago **-3** @Minnesota Atlanta **-3.5** @Carolina @Tampa Bay **-7.5** Philadelphia @Buffalo **-3** St. Louis @Cincinnati **-3** Dallas Afternoon games @ San Francisco **-10** Miami @NY Giants **-5** New Orleans @Seattle **-10** Arizona Sunday Night @Green Bay **-6.5** Detroit Monday Night @New England **-3.5** Houston Anyone know why there’s practically no afternoon games this week? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984/20 "2012-12-07T15:33:28Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Anyone know why there’s practically no afternoon games this week? It’s about normal. There were 4 last week, but you have to go back to week 6 to see 4 afternoon games again. The networks only get to broadcast 8 doubleheaders in the regular season, so there generally aren’t a lot of late games, anyway. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/642984.md?page=2)