# NFL Week 14

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 10, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086 "2015-12-10T16:21:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/21 "2015-12-14T00:48:57Z")

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Granted it was vs the Cowboys, but a convincing win feels good.  
Winning season guaranteed.

Brian

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/22 "2015-12-14T01:29:05Z")

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Green Bay won only because Dez Bryant was once again cheated out of a reception.

damn that cheating ball, touching the turf like that

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**Author:** ![spencerjensen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@spencerjensen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spencerjensen)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/23 "2015-12-14T03:26:53Z")

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Carolina is by far the best team in the NFL. I don’t see them losing or New England in the playoffs. Carolina and New England in the Superbowl.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/24 "2015-12-14T04:32:24Z")

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> [@spencerjensen](#):
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> Carolina is by far the best team in the NFL. I don’t see them losing or New England in the playoffs. Carolina and New England in the Superbowl.

Carolina plays in a weak division; I strongly disagree that they are ‘by far’ the best team in the NFL.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/25 "2015-12-14T05:35:44Z")

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Yes, Carolina did have/does have a comparatively easy schedule. Their opponents included the NFC-E and the AFC-S, two rather milquetoasty divisions (1 and 2 in the NFC-E have the same record as 2 and 3 in the NFC-S). Being 13-0 is partly about having a good team, but having good luck matters almost as much.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/26 "2015-12-14T06:20:01Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Yes, Carolina did have/does have a comparatively easy schedule. Their opponents included the NFC-E and the AFC-S, two rather milquetoasty divisions (1 and 2 in the NFC-E have the same record as 2 and 3 in the NFC-S). Being 13-0 is partly about having a good team, but having good luck matters almost as much.

It will be a quite interesting game should Carolina get a rematch against Seattle…which will of course be played in Carolina. I think Seattle wins it but ill be rooting for Carolina because I hate Pete Carroll.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/27 "2015-12-14T11:26:55Z")

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Chiefs have won 7 in a row after beating Seattle 10-3.

KC is already still pumped after the Royals win.

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**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/28 "2015-12-14T13:31:11Z")

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I was wondering how easy a schedule Carolina has had, so I looked it up this morning. As of now, they have played two teams that currently have a winning record. Check that, they have played 2 teams that currently have a .500 record or better.

They beat the Packers (9-4) and the Seahawks (8-5). They have played the NFC East (best teams at 6-7) and the AFC South (best teams at 6-7). The rest of the NFC south is under .500.

They are good, buy they have had a ridiculously easy schedule.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/29 "2015-12-14T14:45:37Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> SportsCenter on my phone is showing Seattle -9.5. Is it possible your data source is not showing a line because of confusion over the Baltimore starting QB?

Seems the likely explanation, I checked 2 sources before posting. Although I don’t know how many points Schaub is worth compared to Clausen.

How about those Niners? They gotta be the worst team in the NFL by a long shot to make the Browns look competent. I think Crowell’s 145 yards doubled his next best rushing performance all year.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/30 "2015-12-14T17:14:13Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Chiefs have won 7 in a row after beating Seattle 10-3.
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> KC is already still pumped after the Royals win.

I assure you this did not happen yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/31 "2015-12-14T17:57:28Z")

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Well, The Chiefs did win their seventh in a row. And the score was 10-3. But the opponent was San Diego, not Seattle.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/32 "2015-12-14T18:10:54Z")

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And two out of three ain’t bad?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/33 "2015-12-14T19:23:36Z")

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After the Chiefs beat Seattle 24-20, they went 2-4 and missed the playoffs. But that was last season. They did lose to the Hawks, 13-14, in the pre-season for whatever that might be worth. Oh how distant in the past their division rivalry seems these days.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/34 "2015-12-14T19:45:30Z")

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Im so happy that the Raiders are on the way back. They have shown a lot of character this year and its always sweet to beat Denver in Denver but I wouldnt mind if they lost out only so they could get one more better draft class. They resigned Crabtree and lets hope they wrap up Mack and Carr soon.

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**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/35 "2015-12-14T21:53:26Z")

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> [@mcgato](#):
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> I was wondering how easy a schedule Carolina has had, so I looked it up this morning. As of now, they have played two teams that currently have a winning record. Check that, they have played 2 teams that currently have a .500 record or better.
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> They beat the Packers (9-4) and the Seahawks (8-5). They have played the NFC East (best teams at 6-7) and the AFC South (best teams at 6-7). The rest of the NFC south is under .500.
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> They are good, buy they have had a ridiculously easy schedule.

It’s hard for a team to have a tough strength of schedule when the opponents have 13 losses and 0 wins because of that team. If Carolina lost all their games, they’d have 8 opponents with a winning record.

The NFC South is tied with the AFC East for the most wins, so it’s not a weak division (which was said by another poster).

Carolina has the highest strength of victory out of all the winning teams in the NFC. No winning team in the NFL has a SoV over .500 [NFL Standings - 2024 Regular Season Playoff Standings - ESPN](http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff) .

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/36 "2015-12-14T22:29:29Z")

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> It’s hard for a team to have a tough strength of schedule when the opponents have 13 losses and 0 wins because of that team. If Carolina lost all their games, they’d have 8 opponents with a winning record.

Well, when the Patriots went 16-0 they beat the 13-3 Colts, 13-3 Cowboys, 11-5 Chargers, 10-6 Giants (first time), 10-6 Steelers, 10-6 Browns, and 9-7 Redskins. So it can be done.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-14/740086/37 "2015-12-15T14:42:51Z")

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There’s nothing you can do about NFL scheduling. Not their fault they got slotted against the AFC South and that their own division is weak. That said, yes they’ve had a weak schedule and it won’t get much better with final games against NYG, Atlanta and the Bucs.

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