# NFL Week 15
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [December 15, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327 "2011-12-15T19:48:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/21 "2011-12-16T03:48:20Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Is Blaine Gabbert really that bad? I didn’t think he was this bad.
It’s hard to say. He has no receivers (NFLN just showed a graphic – between the Jags’ four available WRs, they have something like 40 career receptions), and his o-line is a sieve. Neither of those is helping him look any better.
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### Author:  [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/22 "2011-12-16T04:24:10Z")
I was really happy when the Niners passed on Gabbert, I know that much.
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### Author:  [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/23 "2011-12-16T07:43:36Z")
> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Holy shit! 5-10 Kilos of coke and 1,000 pounds of weed a week?
Are we sure that’s not just for personal use?
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### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/24 "2011-12-16T08:34:22Z")
> [@Omniscient](#):
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> That’s a hell of a plan.
No it isn’t when you factor in the risk involved versus the security he had. You just can’t move that level of product without winding up on somebody’s radar…either the feds, or people that play a hell of a lot rougher than cops. Maybe both. Factor in his quasi-celebrity status as an NFL player, and the odds of a happy ending plummet. Obviously I value things differently than he did. Maybe I just lack a criminal mindset, but the whole thing sounds like epic fail from the start to me.
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### Author:  [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/25 "2011-12-16T13:59:00Z")
> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Holy shit! 5-10 Kilos of coke and 1,000 pounds of weed a week?
And why is cocaine metric and marijuana in Imperial units?
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/26 "2011-12-16T14:51:08Z")
> [@Oakminster](#):
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> No it isn’t when you factor in the risk involved versus the security he had. You just can’t move that level of product without winding up on somebody’s radar…either the feds, or people that play a hell of a lot rougher than cops. Maybe both. Factor in his quasi-celebrity status as an NFL player, and the odds of a happy ending plummet. Obviously I value things differently than he did. Maybe I just lack a criminal mindset, but the whole thing sounds like epic fail from the start to me.
I never said it was a good plan, but it certainly was quite a big plan.
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/27 "2011-12-16T15:16:09Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Is Blaine Gabbert really that bad? I didn’t think he was this bad.
Who knows? He might actually end up being good. That’s one of the problems with rookie QBs. It’s usually hard to say, based on the first season, if they’re actually bad or simply being typical rookies.
He’s also not got much support around him and the coaching change can’t be good. And the shortened off season combined with the unusually high number of players on IR made for a bad situation.
The saddest part is that Jacksonville absolutely knew Gabbert probably needed this entire season riding the bench and just absorbing the system. But Del Rio wanted to keep his job with a playoff run, so he dumped Garrard in spectacularly theatrical fashion and tried out McCown, who ended up just plain sucking. So, that left Gabbert.
If Del Rio had more faith in his job security (or was just looking to do the right thing), he would have signed a veteran QB (even if it’s Jeff Garcia) who probably couldn’t provide a spark on his own but could mentor Gabbert and maybe do enough to win a few close games.
I agree with some of the pundits: bench Gabbert for now. He can still be the QB of the future, but it does him (or his confidence) absolutely no good to be flailing about for the rest of a lost season. Maybe he’s developed as much as he can for one season. An entire off-season to recover, train, and study may be all he needs, though I personally think another year to replace his lost rookie studying year under a veteran QB might be a better solution.
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### Author:  [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/28 "2011-12-16T15:41:03Z")
Just checking the NFL broadcast maps at [the506.com](http://the506.com/nflmaps/2011/wk15.html) and this has got to be the worst set of games ever broadcast on a single network on a Sunday:
CBS Early Games:
CIN @ STL
TEN @ IND
MIA @ BUF
Just awful. Most of the country will get the Bengals and Rams. Fox’s early games aren’t a heck of a lot better, but nowhere near as dreadful as that list.
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### Author:  [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/29 "2011-12-16T15:45:34Z")
In my area, we’ll only get **GIANTS** and 'Skins. I can live with that.
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### Author:  [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/30 "2011-12-16T15:54:36Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Much to **Omni’s** chagrin, looks like Bears WR Sam Hurd got busted for trying to purchase quite a large quantity of coke and weed.
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> [NFL News, Expert Analysis, Rumors, Live Updates, & more - Yahoo Sports](http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Bears-WR-Sam-Hurd-busted-by-federal-agents-in-on?urn=nfl-wp13964)
I was shocked to see this when it broke yesterday morning, but then I started thinking about it. This shouldn’t be too surprising, he was a Dallas Cowboy, after all.
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### Author:  [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/31 "2011-12-16T21:39:17Z")
So, which officiating crew is the NFL going to send to Oakland for the RaidersLions game? Jeff Triplette? Mike Carey?-
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/32 "2011-12-16T21:59:57Z")
Apparently, Bill Leavy and his crew. They’ll certainly earn their paychecks this week.
> **[Week 15 - NFL Refs](https://www.football-refs.com/nfl-referees-by-season/2011-crews/week-15/)**
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> THU, DEC 15 Jacksonville at Atlanta - Ron Winter SAT, DEC 17 Dallas at Tampa Bay - Terry McAulay SUN, DEC 18 Miami at Buffalo - John Parry Seattle at Chicago - Tony Corrente's crew, led by Ed Hochuli Tennessee at Indianapolis - Pete Morelli Green Bay...
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/33 "2011-12-17T00:29:22Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I was shocked to see this when it broke yesterday morning, but then I started thinking about it. This shouldn’t be too surprising, he was a Dallas Cowboy, after all.
Its going to be interesting to see how many other NFL players are on his alleged “double digit client list”.
**please God, no Cincinnati Bengals**
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/34 "2011-12-17T14:32:27Z")
Dan Orlovski, Ernie Sims, and Jerome Felton were on the Detroit team that went 0-16 and also this year’s Colts teams. How much would it suck to be on the only two teams in NFL history that went 0-16?
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/35 "2011-12-17T21:15:27Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The double digit list of NFL players who were allegedly Hurd’s clients could make things very messy indeed.
Nonsense, Hurd through his attorney has “100%” denied that he supplied drugs to any NFL players. So that’s that. 🙂
I did like a quote from the linked story, however.
\*"As for Hurd, receiver Earl Bennett described him as a “guy with high character who just loves to play the game of football, loves to have fun.” Bennett also said he doesn’t think other players are involved.
“I wouldn’t think so,” he said. “A lot of guys in this locker room are very high-character guys.”"\*
😃
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/36 "2011-12-18T02:43:49Z")
I remember being shocked at the Bucs record last year and how well Freeman was playing. I thought last year that they would have a bad year, that Freeman was overdrafted and that that defense wasn’t very good. And they showed me up, by going 10-6 and barely missing the playoffs. I was confused and confounded at their success last year.
This year, however, it appears I was right. I don’t know what is going on in Tampa, but it isn’t good.
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/37 "2011-12-18T03:03:28Z")
Edit: NM
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### Author:  [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/38 "2011-12-18T04:42:24Z")
Deion Sanders’ post-game question to Tony Romo, of all people:
“Who gets in your butt?”
No, I’m not kidding. The jokes absolutely write themselves.
This will be a meme by tomorrow, and Deadspin is already doing their very best to put it on their front page.
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### Author:  [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/39 "2011-12-18T07:36:19Z")
I love [this clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcIbecfUhU&feature=related) from the Falcons/Jaguars game.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a RB use a blocker quite like that.
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### Author:  [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/606327/40 "2011-12-18T14:54:59Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> This shouldn’t be too surprising, he was a Dallas Cowboy, after all.
“South America’s Team”
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