# NFL Week 15

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 12, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858 "2012-12-12T20:06:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/21 "2012-12-14T02:23:09Z")

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For Gruden to return, he’d want “total control”, he’s not coming back to be a co-ordinator.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/22 "2012-12-14T02:33:32Z")

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The Bengals are biting hard on pump fakes and play actions, and it’s costing them.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/23 "2012-12-14T02:39:26Z")

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Bryce Brown looks like he’s got a turbo button taped down that no one else’s controller even has. He’s a serious talent. Really exciting to watch!

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/24 "2012-12-14T02:52:17Z")

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Watching Brandon Tate, Burfict, and Pacman making just plain stupid mistakes (who catches a punt at the 1 yard line?) reminds me of the Bungles of old.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/25 "2012-12-14T03:19:00Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Watching Brandon Tate, Burfict, and Pacman making just plain stupid mistakes (who catches a punt at the 1 yard line?) reminds me of the Bungles of old.

The Eagles’ Damaris Johnson fielded a punt at his own 2 (moving towards his end zone, no less) and ran it back for a touchdown against Dallas a couple weeks ago.

But the Eagles are a stupid team too, so… yeah.

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**Author:** ![I\_Like\_Pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@I\_Like\_Pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Like_Pie)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/26 "2012-12-14T03:45:38Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Watching Brandon Tate, Burfict, and Pacman making just plain stupid mistakes (who catches a punt at the 1 yard line?) reminds me of the Bungles of old.

What is it about national tv that makes the Bengals play so horribly? I just don’t get it. I can’t bring myself to watch the rest of this game.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/27 "2012-12-14T03:53:37Z")

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Andy Dalton should name his first child AJ Green Dalton; he should build a monument to AJ Green outside every NFL stadium in the country, and should tithe 50% of his salary to AJ Green.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/28 "2012-12-14T04:02:45Z")

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While I get Brown had fumbling issues, you’d think they could mention once the fact that the O-line were MIA on that play.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/29 "2012-12-14T04:11:54Z")

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The Eagles are really getting into that Christmas spirit. Even Taylor Mays got a gift.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/30 "2012-12-14T04:12:16Z")

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This has been as absolutely incredible, as unbelievable, as hilarious a sequence of hot fucking garbage as any in the history of the NFL. I’m certain of that.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/31 "2012-12-14T05:54:15Z")

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The Eagles had one job to do. God they suck. But hey, DYNASTY!

Looks like Pittsburgh has to take care of business next week, because nobody else can.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/32 "2012-12-14T06:56:26Z")

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Going into the game, the Eagles had only [del]two[/del] three healthy opening-day starters on offense. Not enough is made of that fact and you’ll rarely ever see such a disastrous bout with the injury bug.

Two of those remaining starters left tonight’s game with injury, too.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/33 "2012-12-14T13:13:34Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> There’s an awful lot fo talk going around about Zimmer and Gruden being up at the front of the line for head coaching jobs this coming season (Mayock just mentioned both within the span of three minutes). Are there any chances the Bengals fire Lewis? If not, what do you think would happen if you lost both coordinators?

Marvin just signed an extension. If the Bengals make the playoffs, he will have led the team to two consecutive playoff appearances, which would be the first time since essentially forever. With Mike Brown being the overly loyal owner that he is, I don’t see Lewis getting fired. Zimmer still has time on his contract, not sure about Gruden. I don’t think Jay Gruden is ready to be a head coach yet. He was an Arena League coach two years ago.

> [@etv78](#):
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> For Gruden to return, he’d want “total control”, he’s not coming back to be a co-ordinator.

Are you talking about John Gruden, or his brother Jay, the offensive coordinator of the Bengals?

> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Watching Brandon Tate, Burfict, and Pacman making just plain stupid mistakes (who catches a punt at the 1 yard line?) reminds me of the Bungles of old.

I hate Brandon Tate. Burfict and Pacman however have played like studs this season, a couple minor gaffes aside. Adam Jones has been electrifying as a punt returner and has been gold as a 3rd CB, and Vontaze Burfict has been an _amazing_ find given his UDFA status, and the fact that he’s a rookie.

> [@I\_Like\_Pie](#):
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> What is it about national tv that makes the Bengals play so horribly? I just don’t get it. I can’t bring myself to watch the rest of this game.

The Bengals do seem to wilt under the bright lights. I have no idea why.

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> Andy Dalton should name his first child AJ Green Dalton; he should build a monument to AJ Green outside every NFL stadium in the country, and should tithe 50% of his salary to AJ Green.

Maybe when AJ stops dropping sure TD passes like last Sunday than you can crown him. Crown his ass!  
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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> The Eagles had one job to do. God they suck. But hey, DYNASTY!
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> Looks like Pittsburgh has to take care of business next week, because nobody else can.

You guys will have your hands full on Sunday.

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**Author:** ![I\_Like\_Pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@I\_Like\_Pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Like_Pie)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/34 "2012-12-14T16:46:05Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Andy Dalton should name his first child AJ Green Dalton; he should build a monument to AJ Green outside every NFL stadium in the country, and should tithe 50% of his salary to AJ Green.

I second the motion.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/35 "2012-12-14T17:54:00Z")

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Dalton’s kid and Ray Rice Flacco could be great friends.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/36 "2012-12-14T18:17:43Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Dalton’s kid and Ray Rice Flacco could be great friends.

Calvin Johnson Stafford as well.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/37 "2012-12-14T22:52:15Z")

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Brandon Marshall Cutler will be hosting the party.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/38 "2012-12-15T00:02:23Z")

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I think the Browns may get jobbed by the refs this weekend, the push to get RG3 and Luck in the playoffs from the league must be pretty strong. That’s probably paranoid.

Should be an interesting game, anyway. I’ve been meaning to watch more of RG3 this year since I’ve had a complete mancrush on him for about a year now.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/39 "2012-12-15T02:33:46Z")

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**Foiegras** -I meant John, the MNF braodcaster. Forgot completely about his brother.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/40 "2012-12-16T08:47:39Z")

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Huh, RG3 isn’t playing looks like. Browns win 4 in a row maybe?

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