# NFL Week 15 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 12, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858 "2012-12-12T20:06:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/141 "2012-12-18T21:10:06Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Hey, don’t go injecting reality into the misconception that the NFC East are the darlings. There are a couple of teams that perennially suck, and thus don’t get called up to prime time. Other than that, it’s all pretty even. > . They may not get called up to prime time but turn on the NFL Network or ESPN anytime and there’s a really really good chance that you will see either the Cowboys, Jets or Eagles. It’s impossible to deny that the NFC East gets more than it proportionate share of coverage. Nothing new there. If I were a Falcons fan I would be annoyed that my team as good as it is gets very little coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/142 "2012-12-18T21:12:07Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > It’s even enough already. 24 teams play(ed) on MNF this season, and the repeated teams are Chicago (3), Houston (2), NY Jets (2), Philadelphia (2), 49ers (2), Denver (2), San Diego (2), and Detroit (2). Teams left out were the Vikings, Bucs, Rams, Dolphins, Bills, Colts, Browns, and Jaguars. > > Could have done without multiple Jets, Eagles, Lions, and Chargers games, and didn’t need Chicago three times, but for snubs they only missed out on Minnesota and Indianapolis. Wait, the Packers who were 15-1 last year only got 1 MNF game? And somehow Chicago got 3? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/143 "2012-12-18T22:21:44Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > Wait, the Packers who were 15-1 last year only got 1 MNF game? And somehow Chicago got 3? The Giants, 4-1 in the SB, including winning the most recent one, only got one as well. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/144 "2012-12-18T22:27:14Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > Wait, the Packers who were 15-1 last year only got 1 MNF game? And somehow Chicago got 3? MNF isn’t the league’s premier prime-time game any longer; Sunday Night Football (on NBC) is. The Packers appeared on SNF three times this season; the Bears appeared once. (Edit: and the Giants have been on NBC three times, as well, if you include the Thursday night game to open the season.) ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/145 "2012-12-19T00:52:18Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > MNF isn’t the league’s premier prime-time game any longer; Sunday Night Football (on NBC) is. The Packers appeared on SNF three times this season; the Bears appeared once. > > (Edit: and the Giants have been on NBC three times, as well, if you include the Thursday night game to open the season.) Thanks. Never thought about that. IMO Sunday night nfl has the best call guy and analyst doing football right now. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/146 "2012-12-19T16:26:19Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Michael Lombardi is leaving his job at the NFL network. > > WHY GOD WHY > > The Browns have fucking 13 years of suck where the only thing in common is the useless ownership, and they finally shed them to a guy who seems to really have his shit together. But apparently not! > > If the team hires Mike Fucking Lombardi, that may be it for me. I don’t know if I can take another 15 years of retardation. > > A few weeks ago someone wrote an e-mail to Haslam’s e-mail address about Lombardi and got a response of something like “blah blah blah, been receiving many passionate responses, but half the people who write are for it, and half are against it” > > Yeah, because there’s a big fucking campaign of people passionately writing in about how the Browns should hire Mike Lombardi. Bullshit. They actually ran a forum poll after that, and on that forum you can get at least 20% of the vote for Hitler to be the QB, and it was like 400-2 against Lombardi. How in the fuck could they possibly think that’s a good idea? > > I guess they just want an ass kissing yes man to do whatever they tell him. I know a lot of fans love Heckert, but I’m not one of them. He has continued the trend of sucky QBs. If Lombardi isn’t enough to make you give up, just imagine when they hire Josh McDaniels to replace Shurmur. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/147 "2012-12-19T20:31:50Z")
Josh McDaniels worries me less than Lombardi by an order of magnitude. He’s a young, smart, ambitious head coach that was given too much control and too many responsibilities on his first job. He could learn and bounce back. Lombardi is a career kiss ass yes man who’s never actually done anything notable that’s good and almost certainly never will. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/148 "2012-12-19T20:39:20Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > Thanks. Never thought about that. IMO Sunday night nfl has the best call guy and analyst doing football right now. SNF has the particular advantage that the networks can fairly easily get the good game that had been at 1pm swapped with a rather obvious stinker that had been scheduled for SNF. Not sure if they are still doing that, but they were in the late part of the season a few years back. Seems to me, also, that SNF is an hour or so earlier than most weekday games, making it slightly less painful for the easterners. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/149 "2012-12-19T21:09:40Z")
> [@For You](#): > > SNF has the particular advantage that the networks can fairly easily get the good game that had been at 1pm swapped with a rather obvious stinker that had been scheduled for SNF. Not sure if they are still doing that, but they were in the late part of the season a few years back. Seems to me, also, that SNF is an hour or so earlier than most weekday games, making it slightly less painful for the easterners. Their kickoff is at about 8:20. MNF and the Thursday night game on the NFL Network both kick off at around 8:35. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/150 "2012-12-19T21:37:52Z")
> [@For You](#): > > SNF has the particular advantage that the networks can fairly easily get the good game that had been at 1pm swapped with a rather obvious stinker that had been scheduled for SNF. Not sure if they are still doing that, but they were in the late part of the season a few years back. Yes, SNF still has the “flex” option for late-season games. It looks like they may have used that option to get out of the doggy SD/NYJ game this Sunday, and are now carrying SF/SEA. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/151 "2012-12-19T22:17:16Z")
[Flex scheduling rules](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_scheduling#Flexible_scheduling). Something not mentioned on wiki is that CBS and FOX are treated equally in flexing to NBC. I don’t remember all the details but part of the SNF deal was that each network would lose the same total number of games to NBC over some number of years. E.g. if Fox lost a bunch in the first couple years, NBC would have to balance it out with CBS games eventually. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/152 "2012-12-20T07:41:40Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Josh McDaniels worries me less than Lombardi by an order of magnitude. He’s a young, smart, ambitious head coach that was given too much control and too many responsibilities on his first job. He could learn and bounce back. Lombardi is a career kiss ass yes man who’s never actually done anything notable that’s good and almost certainly never will. In every single instance that I have heard Lombardi speak, he has said at least one completely indefensible, brainless, idiotic thing. Every. Single. Time. I have wondered, on multiple occasions, how this guy has managed to con everyone into thinking he has value or unique insight or cognitive ability in general. Listening to him on the BS Report for a couple years now, it is comical how he routinely changes his opinions to cater to Simmons. His blue chip feature was completely Simmons’ idea. He’s a complete disaster. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/153 "2012-12-21T01:09:36Z")
No Thursday game? Keerap! No Monday either? Double crap. Nearing season’s end is trying in many respects. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/154 "2012-12-21T01:59:18Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > No Thursday game? Keerap! No Monday either? Double crap. Nearing season’s end is trying in many respects. They used to have a couple of Saturday day games the last 2 weeks of the season, a feature I’ve thought they should expand as the end of the season has extended later. Instead, they seem to have practically done away with it. ---
**Author:** ![jkirkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jkirkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkirkman)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858/155 "2012-12-26T17:03:35Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > In every single instance that I have heard Lombardi speak, he has said at least one completely indefensible, brainless, idiotic thing. Every. Single. Time. I have wondered, on multiple occasions, how this guy has managed to con everyone into thinking he has value or unique insight or cognitive ability in general. > > Listening to him on the BS Report for a couple years now, it is comical how he routinely changes his opinions to cater to Simmons. His blue chip feature was completely Simmons’ idea. He’s a complete disaster. I didn’t read the quote in your post at first, and thought you were talking about **VINCE** Lombardi. I was like, ‘Man, **THAT** is harsh.’ On a more modern note, I’m a Georgia fan, and saw Stafford on Saturday night for an entire game for the first time since he went pro. Is it just me, or is he STILL holding on to the ball a hair too long, then throwing late, flat, and hard, and making life difficult on his receivers? He did that all through his time at Georgia, and I thought they would fix it in the NFL. I mean, he guns it so it still goes into the passing lane and gets there more or less on time, but good luck catching it. Calvin Johnson has the hands for it, at least… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-15/643858.md?page=7)