# NFL Week 16 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 24, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447 "2009-12-24T15:14:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/1 "2009-12-24T15:14:38Z")
I really don’t have anything to say except: **Whoop!** :);)🙂 **GO :);)🙂 CHARGERS!!! :);)🙂** ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/2 "2009-12-24T15:23:43Z")
Can’t argue with that. An SD win or a NE loss this week gives the Bolts a first round bye in the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/3 "2009-12-24T22:25:55Z")
Stupid NY teams and their mid-season swoons. As a Giants and Jets fan, I am officially rooting hard for: Giants over Panthers Redskins over Cowboys Seahawks over Packers Jets over Colts Patriots over Jaguars Eagles over Broncos (barf) Steelers over Ravens Texans over Dolphins Looks like I have a vested rooting interest in 8 of 16 games. Luckily, the odds of 8 games going your way isn’t astronomically small. Well, it is if you compare it against something common like spontaneously being teleported to a moon of Jupiter, but you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/4 "2009-12-24T23:05:27Z")
Go bengals, stop committing drive killing penalties and make the damn playoffs already!!! ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/5 "2009-12-24T23:11:57Z")
I can’t say I’m rooting against the Bears. But I wouldn’t mind the Vikings handing us an embarrassing loss on Monday night if that means Angelo/Lovie are fired sooner. ---
**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/6 "2009-12-24T23:16:57Z")
Last Sunday? Those were the Bengals I knew and loved. I don’t know who these new guys are, but I really hope they make the playoffs anyway. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/7 "2009-12-24T23:25:42Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > I really don’t have anything to say except: **Whoop!** :);)🙂 **GO :);)🙂 CHARGERS!!! :);)🙂** Yep, that about sums it up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/8 "2009-12-25T01:32:08Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Eagles over Broncos (barf) Ho HO! Never thought I’d see the day. Plenty of room on the bandwagon if you want to hop aboard. I imagine it’s tempting this time of year! 😃 On the serious side, does an Eagles win really help you at all? Especially against an AFC opponent? I can’t imagine it would. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/9 "2009-12-25T03:09:58Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > On the serious side, does an Eagles win really help you at all? Especially against an AFC opponent? I can’t imagine it would. It helps keep Dallas out, so maybe that’s the thought. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/10 "2009-12-25T03:37:51Z")
The Cardinals have an easy game against the Rams. So, let’s actually make it an easy game. Get Warner and Fitz out of the game early. The Rams are probably going to start a 3rd string quarterback. Let’s take our win and get ready for the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/11 "2009-12-25T05:14:05Z")
Hard to have a discussion when the OP has already made every salient point on the issue. I can’t even throw in a cheer for whoever’s playing Dallas, because even though Washington is one spot below the 'Boys at #2 on my list of hated teams, I just can’t say the words “go Redskins” with any conviction. Looks like I’ve got no other choice but to resort to that much-maligned old standby… > [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > **Whoop!** :);)🙂 **GO :);)🙂 CHARGERS!!! :);)🙂** This. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/12 "2009-12-25T05:35:02Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > On the serious side, does an Eagles win really help you at all? Especially against an AFC opponent? I can’t imagine it would. I think it is because it helps keep the Jets playoff hopes alive. Wow that AFC wild card race is crazy. 6 teams at 7-7 still alive and hoping the Pennsylvania teams win to bring those 8-6 teams down. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/13 "2009-12-25T07:01:36Z")
> [@ReuvenB](#): > > Last Sunday? Those were the Bengals I knew and loved. I don’t know who these new guys are, but I really hope they make the playoffs anyway. The only problem is, they’ve won enough games overall to give you that “gee, I wonder which team will show up on offense?” vibe. Their defense is fairly stout. The offense is a work in progress. Merry Christmas, NFL lovers. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/14 "2009-12-25T07:47:16Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > I can’t say I’m rooting against the Bears. But I wouldn’t mind the Vikings handing us an embarrassing loss on Monday night if that means Angelo/Lovie are fired sooner. Yup. I’m very conflicted this week. I hate Favre and want him to implode in grand fashion on MNF against the Bears and I always want the Bears to win divisional games, but I can’t stomach the thought that a strong finish could save either Lovie or Angelo’s jobs. I wants me some Heimerdinger! ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/15 "2009-12-25T14:34:49Z")
Crossposted from my thread: I typically don’t jinx the Steelers by talking about stuff like this, but they have done me wrong so many times this year that I don’t feel bad in bringing it up. The Steelers playoff scenario comes down to this (all have to happen this week): They win at Baltimore The Jets lose to the Colts The Titans lose to the Dolphins The Jaguars lose to the Patriots The Broncos lose to the Eagles If that happens, believe it or not, the Steelers are win-and-in going into the last week against the Dolphins. Here’s the good news, though: all four of the teams that must lose are underdogs. I think the Steelers have a hell of a chance. There are other scenarios, but all of them depend entirely upon Pittsburgh winning out. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/16 "2009-12-25T14:53:04Z")
The Titans are playing the Chargers, not the Dolphins. I would suspect you just mixed up the teams, but considering the Dolphins are also in the wild card race as far as I know, that may be significant. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/17 "2009-12-25T15:38:56Z")
Random NFL-related question. Am I the only one who thinks Vince Young’s throws somehow look different than any other QB out there? It’s hard to describe exactly what’s going on - I don’t think it’s pure velocity because other QBs throw it pretty hard. But something just seems different when he lets go of the football, like he’s playing under different gravity than everyone else or he’s throwing a different ball. I can’t quite describe it. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/18 "2009-12-25T15:45:26Z")
His mechanics are different. His release is much lower than that of quarterbacks that are taught the traditional manner. It makes it look like the ball is rising for a lot longer, like he’s floating it. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/19 "2009-12-25T17:32:14Z")
Go Titans! I’m curious the scenario that would allow them to make the playoffs. I think they lose every tiebreaker outside of Miami and maybe Houston. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447/20 "2009-12-25T18:06:43Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Random NFL-related question. Am I the only one who thinks Vince Young’s throws somehow look different than any other QB out there? It’s hard to describe exactly what’s going on - I don’t think it’s pure velocity because other QBs throw it pretty hard. But something just seems different when he lets go of the football, like he’s playing under different gravity than everyone else or he’s throwing a different ball. I can’t quite describe it. If memory serves me right, he’s 6’5". When he makes his throwing motion, it’s like he dips down, making himself effectively much shorter. I think what you’re seeing, and what I’ve noticed as well watching some of him throwing recently, is the long, hard work of people trying to break him of that habit. His throwing motion is the anti-Drew Brees. Where he gets up on his tiptoes for a lot of his throws, Young brings himself down. Go Bucs! Come on, Lions. You can get this right. This is where you keep on losing. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/522447.md?page=2)