# NFL Week 16

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [December 21, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937 "2011-12-21T10:55:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/21 "2011-12-22T05:12:04Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I can’t wait to go cheer on my Bengals with 29,999 of my closest fan friends at Paul Brown stadium against the Cardinals. Big game for both teams.

It’s really weird too because I expect such a thing from your frontrunning fans when you’re having a typical year, but usually they come out of the woodwork for the playoff runs.

It’s pretty pathetic that Cleveland is doing a better job of populating their stadium during the middle of an abysmal stadium than you guys are right in the playoff race.

And it’s not like an bad economy thing, since Cleveland is as bad as anywhere (except where I live! Seriously, the Cleveland newspaper ran an article about how shitty North Las Vegas was… apparently they needed to find the one city that was worse off than Cleveland to make everyone feel better about themselves).

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### Author: ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/22 "2011-12-22T05:18:10Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Couldn’t the same lack of foresight in drafting a quality starter also bleed over into having a quality backup QB? Why have the Bears been so horrible at QB, starter or otherwise, for so damn long? And why can they not ever seem to get a really good wideout? Maybe you guys should hire Matt Millen.

Whoosh.

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### Author: ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/23 "2011-12-22T17:31:38Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> To be sure, this is true. But it’s also true that the way the Panthers beat Yates last week wasn’t by blitzing and pressuring. They played a soft zone and dared him to pass. When he faced pressure (not a bad tactic against inexperienced QBs), he tended to stand tall and deliver strikes, even without Andre Johnson.
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> I haven’t seen any real sign from Hanie that he can pass the darn ball at a high level.

So Hanie’s gutsy performance in the championship game was an anomaly, huh? That’s the only time I have ever seen him play and as someone that doesn’t follow the Bears too terribly much, that’s all I knew about him. I figured when he was named the starter due to Cutler’s injury that they might have been OK…but then Forte went down too. Talk about bad luck.

> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> It’s really weird too because I expect such a thing from your frontrunning fans when you’re having a typical year, but usually they come out of the woodwork for the playoff runs.
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> It’s pretty pathetic that Cleveland is doing a better job of populating their stadium during the middle of an abysmal stadium than you guys are right in the playoff race.
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> And it’s not like an bad economy thing, since Cleveland is as bad as anywhere (except where I live! Seriously, the Cleveland newspaper ran an article about how shitty North Las Vegas was… apparently they needed to find the one city that was worse off than Cleveland to make everyone feel better about themselves).

I agree…its pathetic. I used to argue for my fellow fans, but there is no excusing them anymore. Heck, I can’t really even afford to go to the game as someone that’s divorcing, just sank a bunch of money to fix up one of my cars, has primary custody of his sons, had to buy christmas presents and I have _free tickets_! The parking, gas to get there, concessions, etc is going to set me back over a hundred dollars easy.

> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Whoosh.

Dammit!  
😃

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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/24 "2011-12-22T17:34:05Z")

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Woops, I meant “in the middle of an absymal season” of course.

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### Author: ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/25 "2011-12-22T17:50:56Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> So Hanie’s gutsy performance in the championship game was an anomaly, huh? That’s the only time I have ever seen him play and as someone that doesn’t follow the Bears too terribly much, that’s all I knew about him.

In hindsight? Absolutely. He showed a few flashes in pre-season games this year but not enough to have a ton of faith in him.

His play may have been gutsy, but it wasn’t world beating, either. 13/20, 153 yds, for 1 TD and 2 INT. Pretty good for a rookie, but not for a 3rd year guy. There’s a reason he was still only the 3rd QB in his 3rd season.

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### Author: ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/26 "2011-12-22T21:00:49Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Woops, I meant “in the middle of an absymal season” of course.

LOL…you were that guy ranting in front of Cleveland Browns stadium in that recent YouTube video, weren’t you?

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/27 "2011-12-23T04:26:25Z")

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Anyone watch the Texans v. Colts game? I haven’t seen it, but halfheartedly followed online and it seems like the refs were doing their damndest to make sure the Colts won. Is that even close to the truth?

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### Author: ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/28 "2011-12-23T04:29:48Z")

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Well Texans, that was freaking’ ugly. Ugly coaching, ugly play. Sure as he’ll isn’t playoff caliber performance as of late.

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### Author: ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/29 "2011-12-23T04:31:51Z")

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Hamlet, yes, some questionable calls but not as determinate as their poor play.

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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/30 "2011-12-23T04:41:40Z")

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Well holy shit, Indy might not be throwing their season on purpose. They could very well beat JAX next week.

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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/31 "2011-12-23T05:13:45Z")

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Why would the refs/NFL favor the colts, I wonder? I guess they’d rather have Peyton Manning play where he seems like he belongs another 2-3 years and have Luck go somewhere else?

I’m really quite amazed because I thought Indy was throwing the season. I guess we’ll see against Jacksonville next week. At this point, what a waste it would be to go 0-13 and then not throw your season, and end up with the #2 pick.

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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/32 "2011-12-24T17:43:13Z")

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When NYG plays NYJ, how are the tickets handled?

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### Author: ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/33 "2011-12-24T17:58:31Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> When NYG plays NYJ, how are the tickets handled?

Depends on who is getting the “home” game.

Anyone watching NFL network? They just cut to the Falcons charging out of the tunnel to lead into today’s games. Which is odd, since Atlanta is playing New Orleans on MNF.

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### Author: ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/34 "2011-12-24T18:22:26Z")

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Heard on CBS: “Vintage Tebow”

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### Author: ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/35 "2011-12-24T18:23:26Z")

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Broncos are off to a running start again.

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### Author: ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/36 "2011-12-24T18:37:49Z")

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My boss’s boss is here at the retail store I’m working at. He’s a 49er season ticket holder for decades, and he brought his tailgate TV and an HDTV antenna. I love working for fellow Niner Faithful.

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/37 "2011-12-24T19:05:24Z")

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Cardinals stinking it up so far against the Bengals on offense. At least the D has kept the Cards in the game with two missed Bengal field goals.

Time to pull Skelton and put Kolb in. The Cards have a thin playoff chance still.

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### Author: ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/38 "2011-12-24T19:06:04Z")

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Cam Newton broke Peyton Manning’s rookie passing record. I suppose after such a struggling season for my beloved Panthers, I should take what I can get and look forward to future seasons when the team has more than a couple good players.

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### Author: ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/39 "2011-12-24T19:08:02Z")

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Miami smacking around New England at New England.

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/40 "2011-12-24T19:11:17Z")

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Play of the year just occurred in the Bengals game. Jerome Simpson does a full 360 degree flip over a Cardinals defender to score a TD.

Even as a Cards fan, I loved it!

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