# NFL Week 16
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [December 21, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937 "2011-12-21T10:55:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/81 "2011-12-25T03:06:52Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> I was at the Panthers rout of the Bucs today. Really fun game to be at, and seeing Newton’s long TD run up close (first level end zone seats) was awesome. If they can get better defensively in the off season they are going to be good enough to be a playoff team next year.
I said to an Eagles fan this preseason, that I just love the pre-season hubris. And here we are again. We’re not even to preseason, and a team with a 6-9 record is predicting a playoff run next year. Let me know when you beat a team with more than 5 wins a season who isn’t on their 3rd string QB.
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### Author:  [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/82 "2011-12-25T03:12:22Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> While I find NY teams and their fans insufferable, I do so enjoy watching Rex Ryan get his loud mouth shut on the field. Kudos to the less sucky Giants, for beating the Jets. Now if both you teams could kindly fade back into obscurity, that’d really make my day.
Agreed. And ditto for the Penn state.
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/83 "2011-12-25T03:16:16Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I said to an Eagles fan this preseason, that I just love the pre-season hubris. And here we are again. We’re not even to preseason, and a team with a 6-9 record is predicting a playoff run next year. Let me know when you beat a team with more than 5 wins a season who isn’t on their 3rd string QB.
Hey! Leave us our delusions! It doesn’t hurt to allow us to dream. 🙂
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/84 "2011-12-25T03:20:23Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> I was at the Pats-Dolphins game today (which started badly but ended well). Late in the game they showed that play during one of the Red Zone breaks, and the whole stadium went “whooooah.” It was pretty cool. 🙂
The NFL Gameday guys even gave him a perfect 10 score.
[Video]
> **[NFL.com | Official Site of the National Football League](https://www.nfl.com/videos/)**
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> The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.
“This goes to eleven” 🙂
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### Author:  [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/85 "2011-12-25T03:22:14Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I said to an Eagles fan this preseason, that I just love the pre-season hubris. And here we are again. We’re not even to preseason, and a team with a 6-9 record is predicting a playoff run next year. Let me know when you beat a team with more than 5 wins a season who isn’t on their 3rd string QB.
I didn’t say they _would make_ the playoffs. I said they would be good enough to be a playoff team. And I stand by it.
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### Author:  [@UFC\_Is\_Sux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UFC_Is_Sux)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/86 "2011-12-25T03:22:59Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> [Jerome Simpsons of the Bengals - touchdown flip.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7KPZrv7JWE&feature=g-logo&context=G280df2bFOAAAAAAAAAA) This is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen in football. And he sticks the landing!
He had to put his hand down to do it, so the East German judge would have hammered him on points. But still pretty cool.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/87 "2011-12-25T03:30:35Z")
> [@Kolga](#):
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> Hey! Leave us our delusions! It doesn’t hurt to allow us to dream. 🙂
Absolutely right. I remember thinking (or, more precisely hoping) Don Majikowski was going to turn around the fortunes of the Packers. And that the Packer teams built around Tony Mandarich would restore the glory to Titletown. That’s what makes fandom great.
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### Author:  [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/88 "2011-12-25T04:13:01Z")
> [@Frank](#):
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> 19 points is the average Tebow win. That includes points scored by the defense.
But what you said was that the Broncos could blame the loss on their defense. If the Broncos defense had shut the Bills out entirely, the Broncos still would have lost 21-14. Hell, Tebow himself was the direct cause of more points for the Bills than for the Broncos.
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### Author:  [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/89 "2011-12-25T04:14:12Z")
> [@mhendo](#):
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> Adrian Peterson looks like he might be pretty badly injured. Could even be a broken leg, from the look of the hit.
Torn ACL. Probably 6 months before a return is possible and a year before he’d be full strength. All preliminary of course, but quite likely. So the question becomes “will this affect their draft?”
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/90 "2011-12-25T05:26:06Z")
> [@dalej42](#):
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> Play of the year just occurred in the Bengals game. Jerome Simpson does a full 360 degree flip over a Cardinals defender to score a TD.
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> Even as a Cards fan, I loved it!
Seriously…amazing shit! Watch: [Arizona Cardinals at Cincinnati Bengals 2011 REG 16 - Game Center](http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011122408/2011/REG16/cardinals@bengals#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
A SERIOUS highlight catch!
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/91 "2011-12-25T05:32:28Z")
Beaten to the punch…and I’m the only Bengals fan here… **sigh**
Back to wrapping presents…GO BENGALS!!!
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/92 "2011-12-25T05:33:59Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Absolutely right. I remember thinking (or, more precisely hoping) Don Majikowski was going to turn around the fortunes of the Packers. And that the Packer teams built around Tony Mandarich would restore the glory to Titletown. That’s what makes fandom great.
Ouch. Also, Sterling Sharpe, of whom I remain a huge sentimental fan.
> [@lieu](#):
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> Torn ACL. Probably 6 months before a return is possible and a year before he’d be full strength. All preliminary of course, but quite likely. So the question becomes “will this affect their draft?”
Ouch, again.
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### Author:  [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/93 "2011-12-25T06:44:59Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Seriously…amazing shit! Watch: [Arizona Cardinals at Cincinnati Bengals 2011 REG 16 - Game Center](http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011122408/2011/REG16/cardinals@bengals#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
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> A SERIOUS highlight catch!
Too bad he’ll be gone by this time next year, probably for 30 years or more for the amount of dope he had in his house. What a waste of talent. But hey, you still have him for the rest of the year. Here’s hoping he does some spectacular things against the Ratbirds next week so he can at least go out on a good note as a member of a playoff-caliber team.
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/94 "2011-12-25T13:36:43Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Too bad he’ll be gone by this time next year, probably for 30 years or more for the amount of dope he had in his house. What a waste of talent. But hey, you still have him for the rest of the year. Here’s hoping he does some spectacular things against the Ratbirds next week so he can at least go out on a good note as a member of a playoff-caliber team.
Simpson made an amazing play, no doubt, but the guy is really inconsistent for a #2 wideout. He’ll disappear for games at a stretch logging only a couple catches a game then have an 8 catch, 100 yard game. So losing him wouldn’t be that big a deal IMO, especially with Jordan Shipley coming back next season and with the draft, free agency (lots of talented wideouts are going to be FA’s this upcoming year) and a full offseason.
And its the damndest thing about all that pot he was busted with (~8lbs)…he still hasn’t been arrested or charged with anything. I really do think at this point that he didn’t have anything to do with the actual drug ring. That or he’s rolling over on everybody for leniency.
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### Author:  [@Haredye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haredye)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/95 "2011-12-25T15:48:01Z")
> [@lieu](#):
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> Torn ACL. Probably 6 months before a return is possible and a year before he’d be full strength. All preliminary of course, but quite likely. So the question becomes “will this affect their draft?”
There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to start.
First off, initially it was announced that he had _a tear_ in his left ACL. Not that it was torn, but that there was a tear in it. Huge difference.
Now it has been confirmed that his left ACL is torn and in addition he has torn the MCL in his left knee. Recovery time for such an injury is 9 months at the earliest, not 6 as you falsely claim and at least a full year before full strength and mobility will return. I smile thinking of **Dio** throwing a spazz when he heard the news.:p:D
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/96 "2011-12-25T16:02:20Z")
> [@Haredye](#):
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> There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to start.
You could start by looking up the word “preliminary” in the dictionary.
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/97 "2011-12-25T17:56:46Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Beaten to the punch…and I’m the only Bengals fan here… **sigh** \
And I don’t even care about football. 😃
(Sorry, dude - I didn’t think I’d be the first one in with that.)
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/98 "2011-12-25T18:51:14Z")
As if this season wasn’t shitty enough for the Vikings, I guess they won’t have Peterson _next_ year. That sucks.
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### Author:  [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/99 "2011-12-25T19:05:32Z")
> [@Haredye](#):
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> There is so much wrong with this post I don’t know where to start.
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> First off, initially it was announced that he had _a tear_ in his left ACL. Not that it was torn, but that there was a tear in it. Huge difference.
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> Now it has been confirmed that his left ACL is torn…
Are you on acid?
That’s what ESPN was “preliminarily” reporting at the time last night. Of course updates will be coming as available.
Ah, a quick review of your posts puts you in the same league as some legendarily ignorant and short lived posters.
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### Author:  [@Haredye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haredye)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-16/606937/100 "2011-12-26T02:33:58Z")
> [@lieu](#):
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> Are you on acid?
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> That’s what ESPN was “preliminarily” reporting at the time last night. Of course updates will be coming as available.
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> Ah, a quick review of your posts puts you in the same league as some legendarily ignorant and short lived posters.
Yeah, except I get my NFL news from a legitimate source, namely [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) and the NFL network, and what they reported is what I posted so fail for you.
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