# NFL Week 17 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [December 23, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981 "2025-12-23T14:20:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/21 "2025-12-24T16:08:29Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > There are a couple of choice games in the final week: Chargers at Broncos, Ravens at Steelers, but especially Seahawks at Niners. Yes, week 18. We’ll have to see based on the games this weekend. Too many ways it can go, and they’ll also want the Sunday night spot for a game that decides the top seed or a division as well ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/22 "2025-12-24T16:49:33Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > the Sunday night spot for a game that decides the top seed or a division as well Exactly right. We’ll probably see the Seahawks/Niners game in that timeslot. Fits both criteria. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/23 "2025-12-26T17:41:24Z")
(Asked in week 16 thread) I know the Pack is in playoffs, and can win division with 2 wins and two Bears losses. What I don’t know is the consequence if the Pack wins two and the Bears win one. Or they both win one and lose the other. If they both win the next game, how important is it to the Pack win the one after? At that point they can’t win the division. As I said in the other thread, I know it can get complicated with what happens in other games. Thanks, Brian ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/24 "2025-12-26T19:15:21Z")
Assuming Green Bay wins out: If the Bears win one of their remaining games, Green Bay is a wild card. However, there’s a possibility to move from the 7th seed (where they’re almost certainly to finish) as high as the 5th (Rams and 49ers lose out). The 7th seed stands a very good chance of playing Chicago again. Whether that’s a good thing is left up to the reader. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/25 "2025-12-26T21:48:12Z")
Bears and Packers are in the playoffs, no matter what. If Chicago wins one of their remaining two games, they win the NFCN. As @Chisquirrel stated, GB could be the 5th, 6th, or 7th seed if they’re a WC. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/26 "2025-12-26T22:00:15Z")
Raiders sitting Maxx Crosby for the Giants game. The tankathon is on! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/27 "2025-12-27T00:41:46Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > The tankathon is on! They’re definitely tanking. > **[Maxx Crosby Left Raiders Building Over NFL Injury Status, Latest on Raiders Star](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25339741-maxx-crosby-left-raiders-building-over-nfl-injury-status-latest-raiders-star)** > > Las Vegas Raiders star edge-rusher Maxx Crosby left the team's facility due to a disagreement over his playing status for his team's final two regular season games. > The Raiders are in great position for the No. 1 overall pick in the NFL draft and will get it if they lose their final two games. Their greatest competition for that selection is the Giants, who are also 2-13. Obviously, a loss in that final game would go a long way toward getting the coveted pick. It’s also clear that Pete Carroll isn’t calling the shots in Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/28 "2025-12-27T01:14:15Z")
Well, yeah, it’s been clear for months that while Tom Brady isn’t calling all the shots, he’s got an outsized voice in the room Good for the Raiders. They get to be a punching bag/laughing stock for the rest of the league. Glad some team is stepping up to compete for that role ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/29 "2025-12-27T07:14:31Z")
Saturday evening’s Ravens-Packers game looks like it will feature neither team’s star quarterback. Green Bay’s Jordan Love, who was knocked out of last week’s loss to the Bears after a helmet-to-helmet hit caused a concussion, is in the concussion protocol; the Packers announced on Friday that he had not cleared the protocol, and will not be active for the Ravens game. Love’s backup, Malik Willis, suffered a shoulder injury against the Bears, and was one of several Packers who came down with an illness this week. Willis is listed as questionable, and if he can’t go, the Packers would be down to Clayton Tune, who has spent the season on their practice squad. Meanwhile, Baltimore’s Lamar Jackson is listed as doubtful, due to a “deep tissue contusion” in his back, which he suffered in last week’s loss to the Patriots. If he doesn’t play, Tyler Huntley will go at QB for the Ravens. The Ravens, at 7-8, are currently sitting at the #9 seed in the AFC, and another loss would likely eliminate them from the playoffs. > **[Packers rule out Love, will start Willis vs. Ravens](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47420884/packers-qb-jordan-love-ruled-due-concussion)** > > Packers quarterback Jordan Love has been ruled out for Saturday's game against the Ravens as he continues to deal with a concussion. Malik Willis will start for Green Bay. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/30 "2025-12-27T12:12:40Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > another loss would likely eliminate them from the playoffs. Not only likely, but certainly. They are 7-8 and are out of wild-card consideration. The only path for their playoff life is to win the AFCN, which is led by the Steelers at 9-6. The only way that Baltimore makes the playoffs is for them to win their last two games and the Steelers to lose their last two. They play each other in the final game of the season. Pittsburgh plays the Browns tomorrow, ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/31 "2025-12-27T18:00:38Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The only way that Baltimore makes the playoffs is for them to win their last two games and the Steelers to lose their last two. Thank you for the additional information. So, either way, tonight’s Ravens-Packers game will crown a division champ, which is not one of the two teams which are playing: - If the Packers win, then the Steelers win the AFC North - If the Ravens win, then the Bears win the AFC North (If the Packers and Ravens tie, then I think both the Steelers and Bears would clinch.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/32 "2025-12-28T01:55:09Z")
The Ravens are grinding the Packers into the dirt in Green Bay, with Tyler Huntley as QB. I don’t know who saw this coming. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/33 "2025-12-28T02:56:50Z")
Not me! Off to get a pop tart ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/34 "2025-12-28T03:33:33Z")
There are only 10 minutes left in regulation and there has been only one punt so far, period. What a game. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/35 "2025-12-28T03:39:34Z")
Willis is hurt, down 10 with 7 1/2 minutes left, the Packers are going to Clayton Tune to try to make a comeback. …And on the second play it’s an interception (though that wasn’t Tune’s fault, it was a good throw). ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/36 "2025-12-28T03:43:05Z")
Willis’ injury was a non contact shoulder strain, on the same shoulder he hurt last week in the Bears game. Hopefully not serious. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/37 "2025-12-28T03:56:51Z")
And they’re going to win. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/38 "2025-12-28T03:57:24Z")
(Double post.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/39 "2025-12-28T03:58:31Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Hopefully not serious. Clearly not since he came out and made some practice throws. But Green Bay has no timeouts left, the 2 minute warning is past, and they’re down by 17. There is no way the Packers are going to make 3 scores in what little time is left. That would be the most epic comeback in NFL history. ETA: F’ing Discourse, still broken for iOS 26. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981/40 "2025-12-28T04:01:24Z")
Game is lost, so Clayton Tune gets a few more reps. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/1025981.md?page=3)