# NFL Week 17 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 3, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520 "2010-01-03T18:14:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520/61 "2010-01-04T20:19:02Z")
Make that “the Broncos defense gave up 30 points”. 14 points came off of interceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520/62 "2010-01-04T20:28:40Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The Broncos’ defense gave up 44 points, 259 yards rushing, 524 yards total, and didn’t get a single sack. The Broncos’ offense put up 512 yards of total offense, had one wide receiver get 213 yards himself and another had 95, and had 46% third down efficiency rating. > > Not having Brandon Marshall or Tony Scheffler didn’t even come close to costing the Broncos the game. It was an pathetic run defense and 3 picks by Orton (2 of which were returned for touchdowns) that cos them the game. > > I had no problem with McDaniels’ decision. Even though I think he’s a complete douche. He’s a douche of the highest order, but apparently so is Marshall. I still am unclear on exactly why Scheffler got caught up in this though, any history there? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520/63 "2010-01-04T20:47:56Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The Broncos’ defense gave up 44 points, 259 yards rushing, 524 yards total, and didn’t get a single sack. The Broncos’ offense put up 512 yards of total offense, had one wide receiver get 213 yards himself and another had 95, and had 46% third down efficiency rating. > > Not having Brandon Marshall or Tony Scheffler didn’t even come close to costing the Broncos the game. It was an pathetic run defense and 3 picks by Orton (2 of which were returned for touchdowns) that cos them the game. > > I had no problem with McDaniels’ decision. Even though I think he’s a complete douche. I caught a clip of Chris Mortenson on SportsCenter this morning. I’m going to paraphrase him, as I cannot find the video clip online. He basically said that veteran players had gone to McDaniels and asked him to demand accountability from everyone this week, presumably because they felt that some players half-assed it prepping for the final game of last season, where they also lost and got knocked out of the playoffs. After that, Marshall claimed a hamstring injury that may or may not have actually been injured, then showed up late for a treatment session on the supposedly injured hamstring. So, according to Mortenson, that’s why McDaniels benched him. He said nothing about Scheffler. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520/64 "2010-01-04T23:28:32Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > No 2nd round games will be in cold weather - they will be in a dome or San Diego. And if all the favorites win the same will be true for the 3rd round. Hey, don’t dismiss how cold it can get in San Diego. I was at the game yesterday - and sure, it started at a balmy 72 degrees, but by the end of the game it had dropped all the way to a frigid 67. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520/65 "2010-01-05T01:29:14Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It’s not just the NFL. Other sports are even worse. MLB teams who are out of any post-season contention routinely start bringing up farm players and walking through the last few weeks of the season. The NHL too. The NBA walks through late season games too. I would say that the NFL has the _least_ number of blow-off games of all the major sports. Even worse than that, at least to me, is how MLB teams out of contention trade away their stars to save money. Imagine a similar situation in the NFL. Around week 12 the Browns trade Joe Thomas to the Patriots, the Redskins trade Albert Haynesworth to the Saints, etc… I don’t know how baseball fans can stomach it. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Yeah, but the outcome of any one game is usually much larger than the games of other sports. Do you run into situations a lot in other sports where one team gets to go to the playoffs and others stayed home based on the way a third team throws the game? Not saying there isn’t, just wondering. I recall it happening twice in MLB in the last three or four years, where a team out of it / already clinched played their bench while the team they faced was in a tight race with someone else. I only remember because of the endless discussion on Mike & Mike both times. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/523520.md?page=3)