# NFL Week 17 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 28, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393 "2012-12-28T16:47:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/21 "2012-12-30T10:06:16Z")
My Saints are out of it, so I think I’m going to jump on the Denver bandwagon. It would be good to see Peyton Manning get another ring… ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/22 "2012-12-30T18:46:33Z")
Terrible reversal of the fumble by Luck. He wasnt trying to pass. His arm moved forward after being hit from behind. Houston got screwed out of 3 or 7 right there. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/23 "2012-12-30T19:06:24Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > A tie is as good as a win, from the Redskins POV. We’d win the NFC East at 9-6-1, and the Cowboys would begin their off-season. Oh, I know. But it seems a good way to sum up the NFC east this year. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/24 "2012-12-30T19:20:04Z")
Watching the Lions just not give a fuck and handing the Bears a game isn’t as much fun as I had hoped. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/25 "2012-12-30T19:25:12Z")
You sure we’re talking about the same NFC East, **Locrian**? We’ll see tonight if it finishes up that way, but if the Redskins win, the summary of the NFC East this year will be: a team with a pathetic recent history and a promising new star got off to a slow start, then the pieces fell together for them and they sliced through the rest of their schedule, and the rest of their division, like a hot knife through butter. Meanwhile, the Bears are beating up on the Lions, 20-3, and if that holds up (it would be a surprise if it didn’t) it would take the NFC East teams out of the wild card picture. Gotta admit I like the added clarity for tonight’s game - it’ll be win or go home for both teams. And tough luck, Giants: you’re winning big today, but it’s too late, baby. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/26 "2012-12-30T19:34:33Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Random Question: How has Vontaze Burfict looked in Cincy this year? I’ve seen an amazingly low number of snaps of Bengals games this year and haven’t really heard much about anyone on that team, good or bad. Burfict obviously got a lot of press pre-draft, both early hype and then an eventual collapse of his stock. The Bengals got him undrafted as a reclamation project and he’s ended up being a starter since week 3. Any Cincy fans or AFC North fans have a take on him? How’s he look? One-year wonder? Over-rated? Legit steal? It gives me no pleasure to say that he’s a legit steal. He’s the team’s leading tackler, and better in coverage than you expect any rookie LB to be. Lewis and Zimmer say he’s very coachable (one of the big pre-draft issues), and he’s getting better every week. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/27 "2012-12-30T19:58:01Z")
Would you kick an extra point after scoring a touchdown that puts you 2 points behind your opponent? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/28 "2012-12-30T20:06:19Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Would you kick an extra point after scoring a touchdown that puts you 2 points behind your opponent? In the middle of the third, yes. I personally would rather go for a clean kill than deal with a possible tie, an a two-pointer is a pretty big risk (about 50%, IIUC). ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/29 "2012-12-30T20:12:25Z")
Houston? I’d call that a bad decision by Kubiak. The subsequent return may make it moot. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/30 "2012-12-30T21:04:56Z")
Bears win. Giants are out. Redskins can’t win the wild-card. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/31 "2012-12-30T21:06:33Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Bears win. Giants are out. Redskins can’t win the wild-card. DO or die, baby! Completely stoked for this game. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/32 "2012-12-30T21:06:45Z")
Lions turn the ball over 4 times and the Bears still only win by 2. And now they get to root for the Packers to beat the Vikings. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/33 "2012-12-30T21:41:39Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > No way the Browns get the #1 overall pick next year or belong as the worst team on the power rankings. Vegas has the Browns win line on 5.5, and everyone is betting the under. I want to make a decent sized bet on the over, but I hate betting futures - your money gets tied up for so long. > > … > > Incidentally, I’m not going to make a bet above division standings, I don’t have that sort of confidence. But if someone wants to bet the Vegas line - 5 wins or less - I’ll take the other end of it. We can think up something creative. > [@Jules Andre](#): > > I’ll take that bet. I actually like the Browns, I root for them a little bit, but I don’t see it happening this year. See: [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15267513&postcount=88) Hey! I won! It’s a shame we never worked out what I would be getting right now. I remember you offered eleventy billion dollars, but I can’t find a cite for some reason. Totally real, though. In Eagles news… finally this season is officially dead. The single most interesting offseason in my Eagles fandom is about to begin. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/34 "2012-12-30T21:54:52Z")
Giants missing the playoffs? Niner Nation says, “Wooooo Hooooo!” ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/35 "2012-12-30T21:56:11Z")
Id imagine most football fans in the whole of Pennsylvania are glad this year is over. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/36 "2012-12-30T22:22:53Z")
So far, all we know for sure about next week is that the Falcons get a rest and the Colts will be going to Baltimore. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/37 "2012-12-30T22:26:01Z")
See, they should have saved themselves the trouble and never left in the first place. In other news, no team with something to play for looked worse than Houston today. The way they’re playing the rest of their season will be brief. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/38 "2012-12-30T22:28:08Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Giants missing the playoffs? Niner Nation says, “Wooooo Hooooo!” Patriot Nation agrees! ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/39 "2012-12-30T23:06:24Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > My Saints are out of it, so I think I’m going to jump on the Denver bandwagon. It would be good to see Peyton Manning get another ring… Agree. IMO he’s already the MVP. I don’t care if Peterson gets 500 yards today – at most, he’ll help the Vikings get a wild card spot. Manning has carried Denver to the #1 seed. You can’t be more valuable to your team than that. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393/40 "2012-12-30T23:16:20Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Lions turn the ball over 4 times and the Bears still only win by 2. And now they get to root for the Packers to beat the Vikings. Now it’s time for the annual “How will the Lions fuck up the draft this year” waiting period. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/645393.md?page=3)