# NFL Week 17 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 31, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816 "2015-12-31T14:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/1 "2015-12-31T14:19:25Z")
All games Sunday. 1:00 PMEST : Baltimore ( 7 ) at Cincinnati ( -7 ) —- T: — 1:00 PMEST : New Orleans ( 4 ) at Atlanta ( -4 ) —- T: 52 1:00 PMEST : New England ( -9 ) at Miami ( 9 ) —- T: — 1:00 PMEST : Detroit ( 1 ) at Chicago ( -1 ) —- T: 45 1:00 PMEST : Tennessee ( 6 ) at Indianapolis ( -6 ) —- T: — 1:00 PMEST : Washington ( 4 ) at Dallas ( -4 ) —- T: — 1:00 PMEST : NY Jets ( -3 ) at Buffalo ( 3 ) —- T: 43 1:00 PMEST : Jacksonville ( 6.5 ) at Houston ( -6.5 ) —- T: — 1:00 PMEST : Philadelphia ( 3.5 ) at NY Giants ( -3.5 ) —- T: 52 1:00 PMEST : Pittsburgh ( -10 ) at Cleveland ( 10 ) —- T: 47 4:25 PMEST : Seattle ( 4.5 ) at Arizona ( -4.5 ) —- T: 47.5 4:25 PMEST : St Louis ( -3.5 ) at San Francisco ( 3.5 ) —- T: 37.5 4:25 PMEST : Oakland ( 6.5 ) at Kansas City ( -6.5 ) —- T: 43.5 4:25 PMEST : San Diego ( 7.5 ) at Denver ( -7.5 ) —- T: — 4:25 PMEST : Tampa Bay ( 10.5 ) at Carolina ( -10.5 ) —- T: 47 8:30 PMEST : Minnesota ( 3 ) at Green Bay ( -3 ) —- T: 48 TB might keep it closer than that at Carolina. And I can’t believe Washington is getting points in Dallas. Should be a fun football Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/2 "2015-12-31T16:43:13Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > TB might keep it closer than that at Carolina. And I can’t believe Washington is getting points in Dallas. Should be a fun football Sunday. Remember, there’s a reason most keeper fantasy leagues have their championships on week 16 and not week 17. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/3 "2015-12-31T20:41:11Z")
Looks like there are only 5 totally meaningless games on Sunday, which is pretty good. Both teams out: Saints@Falcons Lions@Bears Eagles@Giants Rams@Niners No possible change in position: 'Skins@[del]Shirts[/del]Cowboys Cincinnati still has a shot at top seed, so the Bengals want to win and have the Pats lose. Apparently, the Cardinals could also claim the top seed with a win and a Panthers loss. The Steelers have a shot at post-season, if they win and the Jets cough up a hairball against Buffalo. Seems like kind of a long-ish shot. But probably not as much of a long shot as the Texans giving up the South and the playoffs to the Colts. Chiefs could still take the AFC-W, but I am not clear on how complicated that picture is. And, of course, there is the Green Bay/Minnesota/Seattle triangle, which determines who plays where in the first round. Next week could, in fact, yield a rematch of The Vikings@Packers game, if the Hawks can win in Glendale. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/4 "2015-12-31T21:01:34Z")
Cards vs Hawks is going to be epic, I’m already getting excited about it. It’s going to feel damn good to walk into the sports bar across the street proudly wearing my Fitzgerald jersey and hopefully the Cards put on another ass kicking. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/5 "2015-12-31T22:02:43Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The Steelers have a shot at post-season, if they win and the Jets cough up a hairball against Buffalo. Seems like kind of a long-ish shot. Jet’s have already lost to the Bills once this season and the Steelers destroyed the Browns, so I don’t think it’s that much of a long shot. ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/6 "2015-12-31T22:20:33Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The Steelers have a shot at post-season, if they win and the Jets cough up a hairball against Buffalo. Seems like kind of a long-ish shot. > > But probably not as much of a long shot as the Texans giving up the South and the playoffs to the Colts. If you had to put money on one of those two things, the Steelers getting in is much more likely. For Indy to get in, they have to win, Houston has to lose, and a whole series of things in other games has to happen due to strength of schedule and strength of win tie breakers. ---
**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/7 "2016-01-01T01:01:21Z")
Wondering why the Chiefs/Raiders game is on FOX this weekend instead of CBS. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/8 "2016-01-01T01:32:24Z")
> [@NJ22](#): > > Wondering why the Chiefs/Raiders game is on FOX this weekend instead of CBS. My info show several oddballs: Ravens-Bengals, Raiders-Chiefs and Rams-Niners show up as “Fox•CBS” and Vikings-Packers shows up “Fox•NBC•TSN” ---
**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/9 "2016-01-01T01:35:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > My info show several oddballs: > Ravens-Bengals, > Raiders-Chiefs and > Rams-Niners > show up as “Fox•CBS” > and > Vikings-Packers > shows up “Fox•NBC•TSN” Let me get some info I think CBS and FOX switch games in week 17. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/10 "2016-01-03T18:13:35Z")
What a horrible way to end the horrible year. Browns can knock the Steelers out of a playoffs with a win, but may play themselves out of the Goff sweepstakes. There is no good outcome. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/11 "2016-01-03T18:17:10Z")
The Manziel story just keeps getting weirder and weirder. He’s out with a concussion and yet is playing blackjack in Las Vegas. I wonder if Pettine told him to stay away or if manziel really is that clueless? Play all the blackjack you want after the season is over, but you should either show up with your teammates or be seriously hurt enough. ---
**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/12 "2016-01-03T18:21:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What a horrible way to end the horrible year. Browns can knock the Steelers out of a playoffs with a win, but may play themselves out of the Goff sweepstakes. There is no good outcome. Doesn’t look like that will happen, Steelers on the move ---
**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/13 "2016-01-03T18:23:13Z")
Leave to the Eagles to play at a high level in a meaingless game:D ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/14 "2016-01-03T18:24:31Z")
It should be interesting to see how the Eagles, as a team, react to the firing of Chip Kelly. ---
**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/15 "2016-01-03T18:31:39Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > It should be interesting to see how the Eagles, as a team, react to the firing of Chip Kelly. I found it funny how so many of the players were in the locker room smiling after he was fired and they don’t even know if they will be playing in philly next season.’ They had the look of a bunch of 5th graders who just got a new teacher ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/16 "2016-01-03T18:38:07Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The Manziel story just keeps getting weirder and weirder. He’s out with a concussion and yet is playing blackjack in Las Vegas. I wonder if Pettine told him to stay away or if manziel really is that clueless? Play all the blackjack you want after the season is over, but you should either show up with your teammates or be seriously hurt enough. The reports that he’s in Vegas sounds kinda goofy to me, especially in today’s world where everyone has a cell phone, yet no one seemingly took a photo of him. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/17 "2016-01-03T18:59:00Z")
More Alshon Jeffrey drama. The Bears would be incredibly stupid to let him get away. [http://sportsmockery.com/2016/01/shocking-reason-revealed-why-alshon-jeffery-isnt-happy-in-chicago/](http://sportsmockery.com/2016/01/shocking-reason-revealed-why-alshon-jeffery-isnt-happy-in-chicago/) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/18 "2016-01-03T19:01:08Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The reports that he’s in Vegas sounds kinda goofy to me, especially in today’s world where everyone has a cell phone, yet no one seemingly took a photo of him. Cell phone cameras are not allowed at table games in Vegas, he was allegedly seen at a blackjack table ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/19 "2016-01-03T19:03:12Z")
I was just checking out the Lions draft standings, and although it’s broken down by conference rather than the whole NFL on ESPN. > **[NFL Standings - 2024 Regular Season Playoff Standings - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff)** > > Visit ESPN for the complete 2024 NFL season Playoff standings. Includes winning percentage, home and away record, and current streak. Lions are currently first among the 6 NFC 6 and 9 teams, due to the most complex tie-breaking scenario I have ever seen needed(although obviously not final for anything). > [@](#): > > Wins tie break over Tampa Bay based on best win percentage in common games. Wins tie break over Philadelphia based on head-to-head sweep. Division tie break was initially used to eliminate NY Giants (Philadelphia wins tie break over NY Giants based on head-to-head win percentage). Division tie break was initially used to eliminate Chicago (Detroit wins tie break over Chicago based on head-to-head win percentage). Division tie break was initially used to eliminate New Orleans (Tampa Bay wins tie break over New Orleans based on best win percentage in division games). > Wins tie break over Chicago based on head-to-head win percentage. ---
**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/20 "2016-01-03T20:26:04Z")
Pats don’t look like they understand that they need to win today [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816.md?page=2)