# NFL Week 17

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 31, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816 "2015-12-31T14:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/41 "2016-01-04T23:20:38Z")

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Broncos get the top seed? What the hell?

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/42 "2016-01-05T02:41:55Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Broncos get the top seed? What the hell?

I still don’t think they are good enough to go to the SB. I see them losing to whoever comes out the 1st round

KC, Pitt, or Cincy

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/43 "2016-01-05T05:30:07Z")

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Washington has been great against sub-.500 teams. The problem is that the playoffs don’t allow them to play to that strength.

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/44 "2016-01-05T05:33:20Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Washington has been great against sub-.500 teams. The problem is that the playoffs don’t allow them to play to that strength.

They should be good enough to beat the overrated packers

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/45 "2016-01-05T18:35:33Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Cards vs Hawks is going to be epic, I’m already getting excited about it. It’s going to feel damn good to walk into the sports bar across the street proudly wearing my Fitzgerald jersey and hopefully the Cards put on another ass kicking.

Well, it was epic for one team and there was another ass kicking, so you kind of got your wish! 🙂

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/46 "2016-01-06T01:41:11Z")

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It would not surprise me to see the Bengals and Packers lose this weekend

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/47 "2016-01-06T02:14:50Z")

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> [@NJ22](#):
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> I still don’t think they are good enough to go to the SB. I see them losing to whoever comes out the 1st round
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> KC, Pitt, or Cincy

The Broncos can’t play the Bengals in the divisional round. They would play the lowest remaining seed, and the Bengals are the #3 seed so they can’t be the lowest. The Broncos will play either the Chiefs, Steelers, or Texans.

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/48 "2016-01-06T02:38:43Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> The Broncos can’t play the Bengals in the divisional round. They would play the lowest remaining seed, and the Bengals are the #3 seed so they can’t be the lowest. The Broncos will play either the Chiefs, Steelers, or Texans.

Chiefs or Steelers can beat Denver

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/49 "2016-01-06T03:38:29Z")

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> [@NJ22](#):
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> I don’t see him a one of the all time NFL coaches especially when you miss the playoffs 6 times in 8 years. And I don’t care about him winning 2 SB;s because they were 5 years apart and the first one was a fluke

Surprised me to see that the Colts kept Pagano.

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/50 "2016-01-06T03:46:05Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Surprised me to see that the Colts kept Pagano.

I heard that

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/51 "2016-01-06T15:28:59Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Surprised me to see that the Colts kept Pagano.

Rather surprised me too. What was the headline? [“After Pagano-Grigson meeting, Irsay opted for ‘continuity’”](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/05/after-pagano-grigson-meeting-irsay-opted-for-continuity/)? Why would you want to continue the trend of 2015?

Well, I’ll leave it to smarter and more interested fans to do the post-mortem on Indianapolis’ season, but my gut feeling is that Indy’s problems were mostly key injuries, plus personality issues in the front office. Which (maybe) they’ve worked out. In this is so, giving Pagano another season or two makes sense.

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/52 "2016-01-07T03:38:12Z")

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Lovie Smith finally got fired

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/53 "2016-01-07T23:17:36Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Rather surprised me too. What was the headline? [“After Pagano-Grigson meeting, Irsay opted for ‘continuity’”](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/05/after-pagano-grigson-meeting-irsay-opted-for-continuity/)? Why would you want to continue the trend of 2015?
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> Well, I’ll leave it to smarter and more interested fans to do the post-mortem on Indianapolis’ season, but my gut feeling is that Indy’s problems were mostly key injuries, plus personality issues in the front office. Which (maybe) they’ve worked out. In this is so, giving Pagano another season or two makes sense.

I think it’s also a matter of looking around and seeing that no one available who s an improvement over Pagano. Assuming they don’t want to court Chip Kelly and Sean Payton isn’t leaving, who are you going to hire? Mike Pettine? Some marginally successul OC like Gase? Hard to imagine how any of those people represent a likely surge next year.

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**Author:** ![NJ22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@NJ22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ22)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/54 "2016-01-07T23:52:59Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> I think it’s also a matter of looking around and seeing that no one available who s an improvement over Pagano. Assuming they don’t want to court Chip Kelly and Sean Payton isn’t leaving, who are you going to hire? Mike Pettine? Some marginally successul OC like Gase? Hard to imagine how any of those people represent a likely surge next year.

How was Gase successful and the Bears won only 6 games?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/741816/55 "2016-01-08T02:30:59Z")

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Chicago’s offense was better than last year with mostly the same personnel and more injuries. That’s not a bad performance (“marginally successful” is certainly a fair term) for a first-year offensive coordinator.

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