# NFL Week 17 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 31, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625 "2017-12-31T14:37:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/21 "2018-01-01T04:00:25Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Congrats to the Bills for finally making it in. They don’t look to have much of a shot, but I was rooting for the Chargers to take that spot, so who am I to judge. I guess beating the Jags wouldn’t be that big of a surprise - **Jacksonville has had a few games this year where they didn’t look great.** Yeah. Including the game today against Tennessee where they only scored 10 points and Bortles threw at least a couple picks. As good as their defense is, Bortles is their achilles heel. Rattle him and he’ll make a bunch of mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/22 "2018-01-01T04:33:09Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > We DID see the Bengals score a TD on 4th and 12 with no timeouts with under a minute to play to ice the Ravens out of the playoffs! Terrible coverage and tackling, but pretty damned exciting! Don’t let that distract you from the fact Atlanta blew a 28-3 halftime lead to lose the Super Bowl. The Packers (shockingly) lost to the Lions, and it wasn’t even close. And cheer as I might, no meteor crashed into US Bank Stadium to forcefully remove both of my PITAs from the face of the planet. I’ll work through the playoff field and pick my 2017 NFL Playoff Team tomorrow, but I just can’t bring myself to look at a bracket that doesn’t include Green Bay anywhere in it tonight. On another note, how the hell does Del Rio get canned with a .500 record over three years, but Hue Jackson STILL gets to keep his job? If Kizer happens to develop into a middling NFL quarterback, it will be in spite of Hue, not because of him. I can’t think of anything that will ruin a player’s confidence than to be repeatedly yanked and put back in, with no rhyme or reason, then have a new GM pretty much call him garbage. Jackson being employed in any HC capacity is an insult to the profession. Rumor has it Dom Capers is on his way out as Green Bay’s defensive coordinator. The guy can claim one of the biggest “feast or famine” defenses out there, but with the constant turnover and added play time of younger players due to the rookie contract scale, players just didn’t have the time to learn everything that was needed for his playcalling to succeed. As much as I hate to finally admit it, he needs to go. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/23 "2018-01-01T06:49:01Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I keep imagining the Bills players huddled around a TV in their locker room watching the Bengals almost Bungle their final drive, only to pull it out at the end in spectacular fashion, and the locker room erupting with joy. I wish I could have seen that. Well…found the video. Good for the Bills. > **[Buffalo Bills' Stephen Hauschka captures team reaction to Tyler Boyd's TD...](https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2017/12/buffalo_bills_stephen_hauschka_captures_team_reaction_to_tyler_boyds_td_video.html)** > > Bills players jumped for joy to the touchdown. ETA: It’s funny…this is a team the Bengals beat during the regular season…and now we helped secure their playoff spot. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/24 "2018-01-01T14:20:07Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Don’t let that distract you from the fact Atlanta blew a 28-3 halftime lead to lose the Super Bowl. I own a t-shirt commemorating that very fact, so I’m not likely to forget it. 😉 > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Well…found the video. Good for the Bills. > > [Buffalo Bills' Stephen Hauschka captures team reaction to Tyler Boyd's TD (Video) - newyorkupstate.com](http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/12/buffalo_bills_stephen_hauschka_captures_team_reaction_to_tyler_boyds_td_video.html) > > ETA: It’s funny…this is a team the Bengals beat during the regular season…and now we helped secure their playoff spot. I love that video, thanks for sharing. We were pulling for the Bills since it’s been so long for them, plus we also enjoy Ravens schadenfreude. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/25 "2018-01-01T14:54:58Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Don’t let that distract you from the fact Atlanta blew a 28-3 halftime lead to lose the Super Bowl. March 28 is now a semi-official holiday in New England, Comeback Day. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/26 "2018-01-01T15:47:05Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I own a t-shirt commemorating that very fact, so I’m not likely to forget it. 😉 I need to get one of those, along with a [Richard Sherman Haz A Sad](http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/richard-sherman-sad-shirt-super-bowl-xlix-49-seahawks-patriots/1pg3nlavrg8yu1qvjejih6wp23) shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/27 "2018-01-01T23:13:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I need to get one of those, along with a [Richard Sherman Haz A Sad](http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/richard-sherman-sad-shirt-super-bowl-xlix-49-seahawks-patriots/1pg3nlavrg8yu1qvjejih6wp23) shirt. There’s something I need in my life that I didn’t even realize. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/28 "2018-01-01T23:24:14Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I love that video, thanks for sharing. We were pulling for the Bills since it’s been so long for them, plus we also enjoy Ravens schadenfreude. Another wrinkle in that story is that Bills fans have taken to social media to boost charitable donations to Andy Dalton’s “Andy And Jordan Dalton Foundation”, which raises money to help disabled and underprivileged children in the greater Cincinnati area…mostly in $17 increments..which is how many years since the Bills last made the playoffs, LOL. Looks like they’re up over $15,000 now. So that’s the fans. The Bills players? They’re sending the Bengals team buffalo wings, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/29 "2018-01-02T04:58:03Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > The Bills players? They’re sending the Bengals team buffalo wings, of course. This because they’re out-of-towners, or else they’d send beef-on-weck. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/30 "2018-01-02T14:14:33Z")
And the Browns pull it off! A perfect season! They can do a celebratory dance in the end zone, if someone will show them where it is. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/31 "2018-01-02T14:39:29Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > This because they’re out-of-towners, or else they’d send beef-on-weck. Which, interestingly, the Cincinnati people might have recognized, as it used to be served at Buffalo Wild Wings & Weck, headquartered there until 1997. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/32 "2018-01-02T16:04:09Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Which, interestingly, the Cincinnati people might have recognized, as it used to be served at Buffalo Wild Wings & Weck, headquartered there until 1997. 🙂 Hm. I’ve lived in the tristate area around Cincy since 1993 and I don’t recall Buffalo Wild Wings ever being called that. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/33 "2018-01-02T16:48:35Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Hm. I’ve lived in the tristate area around Cincy since 1993 and I don’t recall Buffalo Wild Wings ever being called that. It was called BW3s colloquially for quite a while around here in the Chicago area (although I don’t know if people still call it that). The “Weck” got dropped from the name in 1998 (but I don’t know if we even had BW3s around at that time). So, if you were up on your trivia or curious enough to ask, at least you’d know why it was nicknamed “BW3” when there’s only 2 Ws in the current name. I’ve never seen weck on the menu here, though, but, like I said, I didn’t see any BW3s until after the name change. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/34 "2018-01-02T16:54:15Z")
Actually, looking through the Chicago Tribune archives, it seems that back in 1995 there was at least one Buffalo Wild Wings and Weck around here before the name change (although the article also refers to it as BW-3), and it did serve beef-on-weck for $3.99. [Here for reference](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-01-20/entertainment/9501200084_1_buffalo-wild-wings-bw-3-tv-guide), although it seems the official name was “BW-3” in this market, not the full one. Hard to tell with the article, as the body copy says “BW-3, or Buffalo Wild Wings and Weck.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/35 "2018-01-02T19:52:54Z")
Sounds like some fancy breed of poofy, yappy lap dog. “Champion Tiffany Chardonnay Orléans, a Bifon Wyck, took top honors at this year’s Westminster Dog Show…” ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/36 "2018-01-02T20:37:50Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Hm. I’ve lived in the tristate area around Cincy since 1993 and I don’t recall Buffalo Wild Wings ever being called that. > **[Buffalo Wild Wings | History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Wild_Wings#History)** > > Buffalo Wild Wings & Weck (BW3) was founded in 1982 by James Disbrow and Scott Lowery, whose parents were Disbrow's ice skating coaches and guardians when he was younger. Meeting up in Kent, Ohio, after Disbrow had finished judging an amateur figure skating competition at Kent State University, the pair were unable to locate a restaurant that served Buffalo-style chicken wings. They decided to open their own restaurant, selecting a location near the Ohio State University in Columbus. The "Weck" ... ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/37 "2018-01-02T23:39:13Z")
Carson Palmer retires. Good for both him and the team, Arizona needs a new young QB and Palmer has had injuries the past couple seasons Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/38 "2018-01-03T02:36:47Z")
Cincinnati renewed the contract of Marvin Lewis. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/39 "2018-01-03T03:43:14Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > [Buffalo Wild Wings - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Wild_Wings#History) Oh I had already looked it up and found it to be true, I was just saying I didn’t remember that moniker is all. > [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Cincinnati renewed the contract of Marvin Lewis. God help me. Worst news EVER! ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625/40 "2018-01-03T13:49:29Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > God help me. Worst news EVER! It’s sad when coaching longevity is a sign of institutional disfunction. Appears to be true at BOTH of the Ohio franchises this year. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-17/805625.md?page=3)