# NFL Week 2: Electric Boogaloo

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 13, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162 "2019-09-13T12:46:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/61 "2019-09-18T01:14:54Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> I mocked the pick at the time. Then he went and looked competent in the preseason. Always have to take that with a grain of salt, but I’d feel a hell of a lot better about having him under center now than watching Eli decay another season in real time and pushing back the start of the Daniel Jones experiment another year.

My thoughts exactly. I was expecting it to happen no later than their week 11 bye, but also no earlier than week 4 or 5 so week 3 surprised me but I’m good; coach’s call.

I’m nervously optimistic solely because of that preseason, but that’s kind of like looking great in the senior bowl – it means nothing – and the only reason he was drafted is because of [how he looked in the senior bowl](https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/4/27/18518429/daniel-jones-giants-pick-senior-bowl-mvp-dave-gettleman-no).

The last two senior bowl MVPs before Jones were also drafted by the Giants, Davis Webb and Kyle Lauletta, and they both suck. But they suck even in preseason, and god damnit Jones actually looked like a real life QB this preseason. I so very much want him to be good.  
Looking more closely at the schedule, my ideal handoff would have been Eli starting the first 6 games, ending his tenure as the starter against the Patriots with the week 6 game in New England and then Jones taking over starting with the Cardinals in week 7. But if you don’t want to wait that long, week 3 isn’t the worst pick.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/62 "2019-09-18T06:30:50Z")

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Why are some NFL players wearing long sleeves in hot weather under the hot sun? Aren’t they already at risk of overheating with all the pads?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/63 "2019-09-18T11:33:21Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Why are some NFL players wearing long sleeves in hot weather under the hot sun? Aren’t they already at risk of overheating with all the pads?

I assume to protect their arms from abrasion?

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/64 "2019-09-18T12:50:33Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Eli’s career stats, thus far:
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> 16 years  
> 232 starts  
> 116-116 record  
> 2 Super Bowls  
> 2 Super Bowl MVPs  
> 362 TDs (8th all-time)  
> 56,537 yards (7th all-time)

The Eli Manning HOF debate is an interesting one. His best comp is Warren Moon. Here are Moon’s numbers.

17 years  
203 starts  
102-101 record  
0 Super Bowls (3-7 Playoff Record)  
291 TDs  
49,325 Yards  
So, I don’t know. Different eras. But line up the stats and say “pick one for the HOF.”

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/65 "2019-09-18T13:24:30Z")

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Eli is a head-scratcher QB. For most of his career he was merely solid, or mediocre. But in two years, 2007 and 2011, he simply absolutely lit it up in a rampage in the playoffs, going a combined 8-0 in the postseason those years. (While still being, again, merely solid/average in the regular season.)

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/66 "2019-09-18T14:05:04Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Why are some NFL players wearing long sleeves in hot weather under the hot sun? Aren’t they already at risk of overheating with all the pads?

Protection from the sun. Protection from abrasion. The material wicks, so it feels at least as cool as bare skin.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/67 "2019-09-18T17:34:12Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Drew Brees is out for awhile too, with thumb ligament surgery pending.

Sigh. My NFL season is effectively over. The Saints have a really tough schedule coming up, without Brees they may not win another game before the 6 weeks is up, And who knows if he’ll come back then…

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2-electric-boogaloo/840162/68 "2019-09-18T19:23:45Z")

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I would love to see Eli traded to either the Jets (he plays in NY!) or Saints (he grew up in Louisiana!) to be the backup until those respective starters come back. Not that he’d be great, but I could see him fulfilling the backup’s role of winning 2 out of 6 games just to keep you alive for the starter’s return.

EDIT: As of an hour ago, Eli says no: [Eli Manning reportedly won’t waive his no-trade clause, accepts new role and vows to support Daniel Jones](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eli-manning-reportedly-wont-waive-his-no-trade-clause-accepts-new-role-and-vows-to-support-daniel-jones/). Ah well. It would have been fun watching him on the Jets. (I don’t get to see Saints games unless they’re national.)

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