# NFL Week 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 18, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723 "2011-09-18T17:04:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/61 "2011-09-19T02:37:04Z")

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Vick is the poor man’s Cam Newton.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/62 "2011-09-19T02:46:02Z")

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Somebody tell me why Dunta robinson is still in the fucking game

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/63 "2011-09-19T02:47:25Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Somebody tell me why Dunta robinson is still in the fucking game

Good question. Ridiculous hit.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/64 "2011-09-19T02:53:06Z")

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All things considered, I think that was the worst punt I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/65 "2011-09-19T03:01:18Z")

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Awfully tired of seeing Vick body slammed a second or two after throwing

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/66 "2011-09-19T03:03:32Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Awfully tired of seeing Vick body slammed a second or two after throwing

Hey, if you ever considered rooting for the Vikings, we have an opening in the NFC North thread.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/67 "2011-09-19T03:03:54Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Awfully tired of seeing Vick body slammed a second or two after throwing

I’m guessing you won’t have to worry about seeing it any more tonight.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/68 "2011-09-19T03:20:58Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Hey, if you ever considered rooting for the Vikings, we have an opening in the NFC North thread.

Don’t play.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/69 "2011-09-19T03:42:01Z")

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Isn’t Vince Young the Eagles #2? Where is he?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/70 "2011-09-19T03:42:47Z")

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Young is inactive tonight.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/71 "2011-09-19T03:43:30Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Isn’t Vince Young the Eagles #2? Where is he?

Injured. Hamstring. Kafka isn’t bad, and if Maclin makes that catch, he might have gotten it done.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/72 "2011-09-19T03:52:54Z")

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This will definitely be one of those excuse games at the end of the season. The Eagles dominated for damn near the entire game until the Falcons started laying the cheap shots. A filthy, disgusting hit on Maclin by Dunta DirtyBird Robinson. Vick \*spun down \*and wrestled to the ground after throwing the ball _before being touched_. God damn it. God damn it.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/73 "2011-09-19T04:05:09Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Kafka isn’t bad, and if Maclin makes that catch, he might have gotten it done.

Apropos of very little: When Kafka was at Northwestern, he interned at the ad agency where I was working at the time. I was asked to spend an hour with him, telling him about my specialization (strategic planning). Pretty bright guy.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/74 "2011-09-19T04:46:30Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Who figured Detroit, Buffalo, and Washington to be 2-0?

Who figured Buffalo and Detroit would be 1 and 2 in points scored after week 2\*\*\*? Course they do have a common denominator in KC.  
\*\*\*until the Rams score 70 tomorrow night.

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**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/75 "2011-09-19T06:58:16Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Arizona is probably pretty bad, but it’s too early to say. As of now, the one game he played against both those defenses and beat them up were half their defensive stats for the year - so essentially you’re saying Cam Newton isn’t any good because he passed on defenses that are bad because Cam Newton passed a lot on them 😛

Sorry, pretty bad doesn’t cut it - the Cards defence sucks. We’re playing a base 3-4 with outside linebackers who can’t get pressure (too old, too slow) and have two rookie cornerbacks who can’t cover anyone at the moment, as well as continually blow coverages due to a lack of familiarity with the defence because of the lockout (although I expect Patrick Peterson to get better). The Cards flat out suck on the defensive side of the ball.

At least they’ve got the Seahawks next week, surely they can keep Tavaris Jackson under 400 yards.

Didn’t see Newton much this week - he is accumulating a body of work though, so maybe he is legit. I still need to see him win a game or two before I am willing to call him the second coming.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/76 "2011-09-19T11:35:39Z")

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Well, Andy Dalton looks for real-ish. He had a nice game but the Bengals still lost. The Bengals have not turned the ball over yet this season, forced two turnovers yesterday and still lost…Marvin Lewis is a TERRIBLE in-game coach. And going 1-13 on 3rd and fourth downs, several of them 3rd and 1…ugh. Kinda negates that turnover margin there, Bengals.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/77 "2011-09-19T11:41:56Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> This will definitely be one of those excuse games at the end of the season. The Eagles dominated for damn near the entire game until the Falcons started laying the cheap shots. A filthy, disgusting hit on Maclin by Dunta DirtyBird Robinson. Vick \*spun down \*and wrestled to the ground after throwing the ball _before being touched_. God damn it. God damn it.

“The Eagles dominated for damn near all the game…” ? Sorry, which game were you watching? The one where Ryan threw four touchdowns and Gonzalez made the Eagle secondary look blind? Not saying the Falcons owned Philadelphia, and if Vick doesn’t get hurt they still lose, but you can’t say that they “dominated” the Falcons.

Dunta Robinson does need to get a huge fine, though.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/78 "2011-09-19T12:04:47Z")

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Who was the Eagle DL that in the 4th had Ryan’s head cocked in his right arm and while Ryan was on the ground first forced him unnaturally forward and then threw his head backward toward the turf? While a physical game on both sides, that was complete bullshit. He should have been penalized with a personal but I’m most disappointed one of the Falcon OLs didn’t unload on the guy.

That was a pretty rough game, not simply hard fought but played in a manner by which a lot of serious injuries could have occured.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/79 "2011-09-19T12:14:05Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> This will definitely be one of those excuse games at the end of the season. The Eagles dominated for damn near the entire game until the Falcons started laying the cheap shots. A filthy, disgusting hit on Maclin by Dunta DirtyBird Robinson. Vick \*spun down \*and wrestled to the ground after throwing the ball _before being touched_. God damn it. God damn it.

We are in full agreement with the Robinson hit, as well as his assholery. He should have been ejected, hell, he should be suspended.

But I’d be shocked if there was a fine for the “hit” on Vick. He was there as the ball left Vick’s hand, and I don’t think not letting go of a QB is worthy of penalty or fine. Even now, when every little thing is called, I haven’t seen one for “not letting go”.

And the Eagles lost because they gave up 35 points and turned the ball over 3 times., not because Dunta Robinson hit Maclin.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/596723/80 "2011-09-19T12:23:49Z")

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Steelers beat the Seahawks? Meh. Chargers got beaten by the Patriots? Sadface, but not unexpected.

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