# NFL Week 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 14, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689 "2012-09-14T13:05:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/41 "2012-09-16T23:19:47Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> There have been some absolutely terrible calls in the Jets-Steelers game.

I’ve been watching the rams/Washington game and the play by play guys don’t have great things to say about the refs in this game either.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/42 "2012-09-16T23:25:29Z")

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I have NFL Sunday Ticket and seems like every game I turn to has some screw up by the refs.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/43 "2012-09-16T23:27:37Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> There have been some absolutely terrible calls in the Jets-Steelers game.

Yeah, they called pass interference on the Steelers for tackling a receiver, then made up for it by ignoring video evidence in a coach’s challenge.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/44 "2012-09-16T23:29:01Z")

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Wow, pretty much the stupidest penalty possible in the Washington-StL game.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/45 "2012-09-16T23:31:49Z")

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Can we get a description? For that matter, how long until someone starts a website listing all these calls?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/46 "2012-09-16T23:38:00Z")

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Not from the replacement refs. It was a really terrible personal foul that knocked the Redskins out of makeable FG range when they were losing by 3. Shanahan was about the same color as his shirt.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/47 "2012-09-17T00:17:46Z")

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Well, while that particular call was definitely on Josh Morgan (he retaliated against the Rams DB by throwing the ball at him), the refereeing over the course of the entire game was terrible.

It’s just a matter of _consistency_. Sometimes a flag is thrown, other times somehow everyone except the refs sees a blatant penalty. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s not like the rules, especially regarding penalties, are vastly different throughout all levels of the game.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/48 "2012-09-17T00:33:50Z")

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Good Sunday night matchup. I really like that the 49ers are back and the Lions are competitive.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/49 "2012-09-17T00:53:57Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Wow, pretty much the stupidest penalty possible in the Washington-StL game.

This.

Morgan probably got lit on fire by Shanny after that. What the fuck was he thinking??? Holy shit. Single handedly lost the game for them. The kicker had a look on his face like “Seriously?? Fuuuuccckkk…” when he lined up for a 63yd FG.

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**Author:** ![Miltonyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Miltonyz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miltonyz)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/50 "2012-09-17T01:18:48Z")

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Stafford not looking hot already.

Refs gave us a break on a phantom pi call early.

Made up for it by giving the 49ers a couple extra seconds on the game clock.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/51 "2012-09-17T02:27:20Z")

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I also don’t understand why Shanahan didn’t go for it on 4th down. Surely the odds of converting on 4th and 16 are better than making a 62-yard field goal. There was over a minute left on the clock, so it wasn’t an issue of not having timeouts. If they make it, they’re back in FG range. If they don’t, they’re no worse off than they would have been lining up for a miracle FG.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/52 "2012-09-17T02:40:31Z")

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Niners are 1st down machines tonight.

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**Author:** ![Miltonyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Miltonyz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miltonyz)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/53 "2012-09-17T03:13:13Z")

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Just can’t stop them on third down.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/54 "2012-09-17T03:14:22Z")

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Has the NFC West become a powerhouse all of a sudden?

49ers - Won in Green Bay and are beating the Lions.  
Seahawks - Lose to divisional rival, then clobber the Cowboys.  
Rams - Lose a close one at Detroit, then beat the Redskins.  
Cardinals - Beat Seahawks, then win at New England.

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/55 "2012-09-17T03:46:19Z")

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Lions are right where I expected them when I looked at the schedule before the season. 1-1. I wish Stafford looked better, but I think the lack of a running game is making things look worse than they really are.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/56 "2012-09-17T04:00:39Z")

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The 49ers are looking strong so far. We’ll see how they do with this season’s tougher schedule.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/57 "2012-09-17T04:24:14Z")

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NFC West kicking ass.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/58 "2012-09-17T04:52:39Z")

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I wonder if Shurmur handed over the playcalling duties to Childress this week, because the playcalling seemed quite a bit more competant.

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**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/59 "2012-09-17T11:52:23Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Brady was getting hurried by a not-so-special line this week, and an aggressive secondary.

The Cards have won 9 or their last 10 over two seasons with John Skelton and Kevin Kolb QBing for them. I would say this makes their defence - including their line - pretty good, as they’re carrying mediocre QBing to wins. Calais Campbell in particular is a menace. Combine with Peterson and Adrian Wilson in the secondary and they should be good defensively this year - it might be that the Pats will find that they’re one of the tougher Ds they’ll face this year.

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**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/60 "2012-09-17T13:19:46Z")

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Correction: Cards have won 9 of past 11.

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