# NFL Week 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 14, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689 "2012-09-14T13:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/101 "2012-09-17T23:59:29Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What additional risk does it put his players at? Retaliation. Justin Tuck intimated exactly that when he said “It won’t be forgotten”. It’s not Schiano’s knees that will be dived at, and it won’t be him who will face cheap shots by O linemen, so it won’t matter much to him. But the Bucs’ defensive linemen were pretty clear in getting their message out that it was the coach’s decision and not theirs. At least they seem to understand how it works. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/102 "2012-09-18T00:00:47Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Well, with only five seconds left I’m not sure why they even tried it. Trying to disrupt a snap on a kneeldown is virtually impossible, but even if by a miracle they had caused and recovered a fumble, they would have had to run it in for a touchdown. If there had been more time on the clock I can see doing it as you may have time to run an offensive play after the fumble recovery. But not with only five seconds. If they push the center into Eli and he drops the ball, they might be able to run it back. Something of the sort has happened before, to the Giants no less. There’s a reason why they call it the Victory formation, and there’s a reason why they trouble themselves to position the players the way they do. If you’re down in position and the game isn’t over, you should be ready for anything. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/103 "2012-09-18T00:04:21Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Retaliation. Justin Tuck intimated exactly that when he said “It won’t be forgotten”. It’s not Schiano’s knees that will be dived at, and it won’t be him who will face cheap shots by O linemen, so it won’t matter much to him. But the Bucs’ defensive linemen were pretty clear in getting their message out that it was the coach’s decision and not theirs. At least they seem to understand how it works. Oh, wah. Defensive linemen have been complaining about knee-diving in the Alex Gibbs blocking scheme for years. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/104 "2012-09-18T00:20:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh, wah. Defensive linemen have been complaining about knee-diving in the Alex Gibbs blocking scheme for years. Hey, I could give two fucks if Gerald McCoy goes down for the year with a knee injury, but you can be sure as hell he does. And I couldn’t care less if Michael Bennett gets cut after a cheap shot puts him on IR, but he does. Which is why they were pretty clear in getting the message out that it was the coach, not them, who made the decision. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/105 "2012-09-18T00:21:02Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Maybe I have a different definition of “work”. To me it indicates “success” and not how you apparently define it as “not success”.The goal was not to knock into Eli, it was to cause a fumble. Hence, it did not work. No, the goal was to hit or knock someone into Eli, cause a fumble, recover the fumble, and score the winning touchdown. Merely causing a fumble would still be a failure, but I think it is obvious that such a failure would show the play wasn’t pointless. Just as successfully knocking someone into Eli and sending him sprawling before he could take a knee showed it probably wasn’t entirely pointless. Having said that, I’m not opposed to the idea that it was bush league and just isn’t done in the NFL. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/106 "2012-09-18T00:28:50Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Hey, I could give two fucks if Gerald McCoy goes down for the year with a knee injury, but you can be sure as hell he does. And I couldn’t care less if Michael Bennett gets cut after a cheap shot puts him on IR, but he does. Which is why they were pretty clear in getting the message out that it was the coach, not them, who made the decision. Prior experience suggests McCoy will go down with a knee injury, and if the Giants want to take deliberate shots at other players, that’s their problem. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/107 "2012-09-18T01:05:15Z")
Holy shit, Peyton. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/108 "2012-09-18T01:13:12Z")
No doubt. 3 INT’s in the 1st Q? Go Falcons! ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/109 "2012-09-18T01:13:31Z")
Make that holy fucking shit. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/110 "2012-09-18T01:14:59Z")
Peyton Manning what the fuck? How is my kicker supposed to get me a single fantasy point when you keep throwing interceptions? Holy shit indeed. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/111 "2012-09-18T01:18:44Z")
Bad officiating saving the Falcons drive… I don’t see why Denver is challenging this - it’s not like the officials won’t give them an even more opportune time to challenge. Then again, the way Peyton is playing, I’m sure Denver wants to minimize the number of yards he’ll have to move the offense… ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/112 "2012-09-18T01:22:30Z")
I’m convinced that if this ref situation goes on for a couple more weeks, there is going to be a call so bad that some stupid hothead will make death threats against the crew, or at least the ref. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/113 "2012-09-18T01:38:39Z")
This is ridiculous. Broncos didn’t gave to challenge, every turnover is reviewed ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/114 "2012-09-18T01:40:35Z")
Once the call was made, I agree there’s no way to overturn it. But man, I don’t know what’s more painful. Watching Denver freaking implode (I’m amazed they’re currently only down by 10) or having to watch this excuse for officiating. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/115 "2012-09-18T01:56:25Z")
4 turnovers, 13 points… this Falcons team isn’t really impressing me. I would not be shocked (surprised, yes) if they lose this game. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/116 "2012-09-18T02:02:28Z")
This game is crawling along. Can’t believe there’s still 9:00 left in the 2nd quarter. ---
**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/117 "2012-09-18T02:03:58Z")
Um, where was the PI on that play? Fucking defender was 3 yards away from the receiver. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/118 "2012-09-18T02:05:41Z")
I’m telling you, at some point somebody is going to start getting death threats. The only question will be if it’s the scabs or the commish. ---
**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/119 "2012-09-18T02:13:54Z")
Second bullshit holding call. So which refs are Falcons fans??? ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/120 "2012-09-18T02:18:19Z")
Holy crap. First half has taken almost 2hrs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689.md?page=7)