# NFL Week 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 14, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689 "2012-09-14T13:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/161 "2012-09-19T10:10:09Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The D in DYAR is defense-adjusted, though granted with a small sample size, so that’s already factored in. Football Outsiders doesn’t take into account the opponent until week 4. ([Cite](http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2012/week-2-dvoa-ratings)) > [@Aaron Schatz](#): > > After two games is too early to try to get a handle on strength of schedule. We introduce schedule adjustments in Week 4 and then gradually increase the strength until they’re finally at full strength after Week 10. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/162 "2012-09-19T12:54:56Z")
The Bengals defense, the supposedly strong part of the team, has given up 71 points and almost 900 yards in two games. That’s just not going to cut it. That’s over half a mile! ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/163 "2012-09-19T14:23:54Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > They were uncharastically bad in week 2 as well. Bah. Stupid Bengals. I know you’re a fan, but you might want to think about recalibrating your idea of “characteristic.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/164 "2012-09-19T14:27:23Z")
Nice 🙂 In fairness, though, their defense has been very good over the last three seasons. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/165 "2012-09-20T14:01:30Z")
> [@Chanteuse](#): > > But that call against Carter for barely shoving Wilson out of bounds while ignoring the head shot to Lee from Tate was ridiculous. The league stepped in and has fined Golden Tate $21,000 for the illegal hit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/166 "2012-09-20T14:06:31Z")
Not for nothing, but every former player I heard on _Mike & Mike_ this week said they had no problem with the kneel-down play in the Bucs/Giants game. Golic, Cris Carter and Matt Light were among them; I don’t remember who the other two were. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/167 "2012-09-20T14:36:09Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > I know you’re a fan, but you might want to think about recalibrating your idea of “characteristic.” Ha, but truthfully, the Bengals defense statistically has ranked in the top fifteen the last four years, and in two of those years in the top 10, once in the top 5. And this without any real stars aside from Leon Hall and the departed Johnathon Joseph. And without any decent pass rush other than last season. So the expectation was there for this trend to continue and so far this season, it hasn’t. RGIII is going to present some problems, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/168 "2012-09-20T15:04:06Z")
I’ve got Washington at a 1 in my confidence pool this week and that after first choosing Cincinnati. That’s a pretty tough one to call. Should be brisk and windy too. There’s not a confidence pool thread/discussion going on anywhere is there? I’d sure enjoy hearing others’ thoughts on weekly matchups. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/169 "2012-09-20T15:19:49Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > I’ve got Washington at a 1 in my confidence pool this week and that after first choosing Cincinnati. That’s a pretty tough one to call. Should be brisk and windy too. > > There’s not a confidence pool thread/discussion going on anywhere is there? I’d sure enjoy hearing others’ thoughts on weekly matchups. Its a weird matchup. The Bengals have not lost to the Skins in Washington in 27 years, although they don’t often play each other. RGIII is still getting his sea legs, although he looks pretty good. The Bengals are going to be focusing really hard on defense, as they have played poorly the first two games and their d-coordinator Mike Zimmer is a hard-nosed SOB that’s had it with his unit. He’s going to be breathing fire all week. The Redskins have a pretty solid defense, so it’ll be interesting to see how they fare against the Bengals offense, which is starting to take steps in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689/170 "2012-09-20T15:31:04Z")
Link to Week 3[thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=666097). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/634689.md?page=8)