# NFL Week 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 14, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343 "2017-09-14T20:42:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/1 "2017-09-14T20:42:36Z")
Thursday Texans @ Bengals -5, 38 Sunday early Browns @ Ravens -7.5, 41 Bills @ Panthers -7.5, 42.5 Cardinals @ Colts +7.5, 44 Titans @ Jaguars +1.5, 43.5 Eagles @ Chiefs -4.5, 48 Patriots @ Saints +6.5, 54.5 Vikings @ Steelers -6.5, 45 Bears @ Buccaneers -7, 43 Sunday late Dolphins @ Chargers -4.5, 45 Jets @ Raiders -14, 43.5 Cowboys @ Broncos +2.5, 43 Redskins @ Rams -2.5, 46 49ers @ Seahawks -13.5, 43.5 SNF Packers @ Falcons -2.5, 54 MNF Lions @ Giants -4, 43.5 A lot of big spreads for week 2. 8 games with a 6.5 spread or bigger. Not looking like a week of great games. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/2 "2017-09-14T22:18:28Z")
The way the Seahawks played last week, I’m not taking the 49ers for granted. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/3 "2017-09-14T22:31:00Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The way the Seahawks played last week, I’m not taking the 49ers for granted. The way the Panthers manhandled 'em, I wouldn’t take the 49s too seriously. Sounds like the completely movable object meeting the absolutely resistible force. Who can screw up least? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/4 "2017-09-14T23:26:32Z")
The seahawks weren’t as bad as their start last week, they’ll reliably beat the 49ers. As much as I enjoy a good Bengals thrashing on national TV, the Browns have the Houston first and second round picks this year. I’ve gotta root for that team to totally shit the bed. Imagine if they’re just horrible this season and get a top 5 pick… except they don’t actually get their top 5 pick, or their second rounder. That would hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/5 "2017-09-15T00:55:39Z")
Need an opponent for a home opener in your BRAND NEW STADIUM? Call Green Bay Packers at 1-800-FU-SCHEDULER. Defending NFC Champs, new stadium…yeah, this could suck. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/6 "2017-09-15T01:15:02Z")
This game is a lesson in bad O-line play and what it does to you. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/7 "2017-09-15T01:27:45Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > This game is a lesson in bad O-line play and what it does to you. An important lesson I think. The Bengals let Whitworth and Zeitler go in free agency, and didn’t have a plan to replace them at all. They moved a guy who was one of the worst tackles in football last year from the right side to the left tackle position, and can’t be surprised when he absolutely sucks. And Fisher, while young and with upside, isn’t a whole lot better on the other side. I think almost any Bengals fan saw this coming. ETA: This is a really bad game of football to watch. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/8 "2017-09-15T02:19:12Z")
They had a plan, it just wasn’t a good one. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/9 "2017-09-15T03:38:06Z")
Someone must have told Andy Dalton that these first couple games are the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/10 "2017-09-15T19:40:54Z")
Any bets on when Cincy sees the inside of an endzone this season? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/11 "2017-09-15T19:54:31Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Any bets on when Cincy sees the inside of an endzone this season? Well, if they do it won’t be because of [Ken Zampese](http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20714911/cincinnati-bengals-fire-offensive-coordinator-ken-zampese-0-2-start). ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/12 "2017-09-15T20:46:06Z")
Browns getting 7.5 at Baltimore? I’ll take those points, thank you. They didn’t look as terrible as I thought they would against the Stillers and the Ravens’ performance against Cincinnati was, well, against Cincinnati. Wow, the Bengals suck. Pats only giving 6.5 to New Orleans feels low. Brady is out for vengeance. Saints defense could not hold down Sam flippin’ Bradford and they’re on a short week. Pats win by 3 TDs. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/13 "2017-09-15T21:24:05Z")
Josh Gordon is completing a ridiculous 90 day rehab stint next week. Anyone who can tolerate 90 days of rehab psycho babble should be reinstated immediately. I don’t care what he smokes or what he drinks, just get the best players out on the football field. > **[Josh Gordon due to complete 90-day rehab stint next week - ProFootballTalk](https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/12/josh-gordon-due-to-complete-90-day-rehab-stint-next-week/)** > > The longer receiver Josh Gordon remains out of football, the harder it will be for him to get back in. But after two full seasons on suspension for his latest violation of the league’s substance-abuse policy, Gordon still hopes to return. Soon.Via... ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/14 "2017-09-15T22:59:43Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Well, if they do it won’t be because of [Ken Zampese](http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20714911/cincinnati-bengals-fire-offensive-coordinator-ken-zampese-0-2-start). It was the right move. The three biggest issues the Bengals have had during this miserable start have been bad offensive line play, Dalton’s poor play as a result and making bad decisions with the football, and finally the awful playcalling. Zampese’s offense was overly complicated in terms of the sheer amount of plays for each defensive situation according to Dave Lapham, former Bengals guard and now a member of the local media, and that his offense was reactionary to what the defense was showing rather than punching first and setting the tone. Taking John Ross out of the game after his fumble when your offense badly needs a spark was just fucking stupid. The guy is a first round pick, an obvious playmaker and the fastest man in the NFL. WTF? This was actually the first time in Dalton’s career that he’s posted back to back turds like this. The four other times he played so badly that his QBR was 50 or less he had great followup games. Not this time. His QBR for the Ravens game was 0.6! He didn’t even get a point! Also, it’s time for Marvin Lewis to go. He’s stale and mailing it in, and is a TERRIBLE in game coach. I guess you can’t fire him midseason and manage to get someone better at this stage but for the love of God Mike Brown, do NOT renew his contract after the season is over. And finally, if Dalton is playing poorly again against Green Bay, bench his ass by halftime and put in McCarron! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/15 "2017-09-16T01:53:29Z")
This is, umm, [delightful](https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1373879)?_An NFL spokesman said Friday that an unknown number of unnamed players have been suspended due to positive tests for human growth hormone, according to [ESPN’s Chris Mortensen](https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/908712528410066945)._ I guess will will be trying to guess whom, this week. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/16 "2017-09-16T11:01:38Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This is, umm, [delightful](https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1373879)?_An NFL spokesman said Friday that an unknown number of unnamed players have been suspended due to positive tests for human growth hormone, according to [ESPN’s Chris Mortensen](https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/908712528410066945)._ > > I guess will will be trying to guess whom, this week. Brian Cushing. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/17 "2017-09-17T02:55:13Z")
According to my son Tom Brady is one of those suspended but I see no confirmation anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/18 "2017-09-17T17:17:38Z")
Joe Thomas just took his 10,000th straight snap - never missed a snap in a decade. The TV guys said it’s the longest streak in NFL history. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/19 "2017-09-17T17:54:26Z")
Bears have had an awful first half with 3 turnovers and 5 penalties. This team is awful ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343/20 "2017-09-17T18:42:19Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Joe Thomas just took his 10,000th straight snap - never missed a snap in a decade. The TV guys said it’s the longest streak in NFL history. I often wonder about that guy. I mean…WHY has he stayed with such a bad team for so long? Obviously he’s well paid. Maybe he has family in the city and likes it there or something. You’d think a LT of his caliber would have moved on to more winning pastures by now. Dude’s a stud. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-2/796343.md?page=2)