# NFL Week 3 Discussion

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 23, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810 "2010-09-23T20:33:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/1 "2010-09-23T20:33:29Z")

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My picks in **bold**

**SF** @ KC  
DAL @ **HOU**  
TEN @ **NYG**  
**PIT** @ TB  
DET @ **MIN**  
**ATL** @ NO  
CLE @ **BAL**  
BUF @ **NE**  
**CIN** @ CAR  
**WAS** @ STL  
PHI @ **JAC**  
**SD** @ SEA  
**OAK** @ ARI  
**IND** @ DEN  
**NYJ** @ MIA

Mon, Sep 27  
**GB** @ CHI  
The toughest game for me to pick was ATL @ NO and I went with the bit of an upset with NO coming off a short week and the game being more important to ATL.

Looking at my list I probably picked too many road teams, but what are you going to do.

Monday night should be fun annd I expect it will be a Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers showcase night

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/2 "2010-09-23T21:35:32Z")

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Sunday is just an appetizer to the main course, Monday Night. Inconsequential amuse bouches like Steelers/TB or Jets/Dolphins hold only minor relevance compared to the sumptious 6 course meal that will be Packers Bears. Should be a great Monday night.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/3 "2010-09-24T00:52:31Z")

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My upsets of the week are Det over Minn., KC over SF, Jets over Miami, and St.L over Washington. (Upsets according to Yahoo pick’em.)

Monday night is going to be a whupping. GB by 20, imho. Chicago’s o-line gives wet paper bags a bad name. Their defense is great…vs the run. I don’t think GB needs to do much running on MNF.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/4 "2010-09-24T01:31:20Z")

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No way the Dirty Birds get the win in our Dome.

**GEAUX SAINTS!**

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/5 "2010-09-24T04:21:55Z")

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Packers week, bitches!

Can the Bears generate enough pressure with 4 men to disrupt Captain Bug Eyes? Will they be able to keep the wraps on Jennings and Finley? Will Driver continue to be a thorn in the Bears side? Which team’s Swiss cheese offensive line will get butt hurt most severely and which QB will manage success on the run? Will Cutler continue his league best QB effiiency? Will Cutler fold under the bright lights of Primetime? Which Bears receivers will play and perform? Can Forte continue carrying the offense?

The answers to these questions and a stranglehold on the NFC North are on the line.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/6 "2010-09-24T12:33:07Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Can the Bears generate enough pressure with 4 men to disrupt Captain Bug Eyes? Will they be able to keep the wraps on Jennings and Finley? Will Driver continue to be a thorn in the Bears side? Which team’s Swiss cheese offensive line will get butt hurt most severely and which QB will manage success on the run? Will Cutler continue his league best QB effiiency? Will Cutler fold under the bright lights of Primetime? Which Bears receivers will play and perform? Can Forte continue carrying the offense?

Yes. No. Yes. Bears. Packers. No. No. Knox. He doesn’t.

> [@Omni](#):
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> The answers to these questions and a stranglehold on the NFC North are on the line.

Glad I could help then.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/7 "2010-09-24T12:40:38Z")

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Lets see how many of these I can get right…  
SF @ KC—KC  
DAL @ HOU—DAL  
TEN @ NYG—NYG  
PIT @ TB—TB  
DET @ MIN—DET  
ATL @ NO—ATL  
CLE @ BAL—BAL  
BUF @ NE—NE  
CIN @ CAR—CIN  
WAS @ STL—WAS  
PHI @ JAC—JAC  
SD @ SEA—SEA  
OAK @ ARI—OAK  
IND @ DEN—IND  
NYJ @ MIA—NYJ

Mon, Sep 27  
GB @ CHI—GB

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/8 "2010-09-24T14:59:43Z")

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Buccaneers over Steelers, 10-6.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/9 "2010-09-24T23:05:34Z")

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It’s almost like some of you guys don’t even follow the sport (yes, that’s hyperbole). The Lions give up insane passing numbers to opposing quarterbacks. Even bad and/or middling quarterbacks end up doing lots of damage. Brett Favre will still be able to throw the ball around, it’s whether or not they’ll be able to run (questionable: the Lions d-line should be pretty good against the run).

You guys betting on the Lions, on an away game, are going to get your lunch handed to you.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/10 "2010-09-24T23:22:24Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> You guys betting on the Lions, on an away game, are going to get your lunch handed to you.

I’m not betting on the Lions, I’m betting against the vikings. 😃

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/11 "2010-09-24T23:26:46Z")

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Forte had 201 combined yards against the Lions. McCoy had 128. The Lions run defense is a disaster, more specifically the tackling. Favre won’t beat them, and if he tries the Vikings are screwed, but Peterson will. He could combine for 250 if Favre checks down the way he’s supposed to. The Lions will rush just 4 and use a ton of zone and the underneath stuff will be wide open, Favre sometimes gets stupid and forces it downfield. IF he sits back and takes what they give him Peterson, Shiancoe and Harvin will all have big games and chew up huge chunks of yardage.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/12 "2010-09-24T23:34:49Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Forte had 201 combined yards against the Lions. McCoy had 128. The Lions run defense is a disaster, more specifically the tackling. Favre won’t beat them, and if he tries the Vikings are screwed, but Peterson will. He could combine for 250 if Favre checks down the way he’s supposed to. The Lions will rush just 4 and use a ton of zone and the underneath stuff will be wide open, Favre sometimes gets stupid and forces it downfield. IF he sits back and takes what they give him Peterson, Shiancoe and Harvin will all have big games and chew up huge chunks of yardage.

I think it’s going to be the same as the Miami game: Peterson is going to dominate but they’ll take the ball out of his hands if they are behind (and they will be behind after 2 int’s and 1 fumble by Farve.) On 4th and short, Farve will decide that him passing is a much better option than Peterson running, and he’ll audible. When the coaching staff criticizes him, he’s going to be a big baby and hand it off to AP 8 times in a row to prove a point.

Probably the best thing that could happen is if Farve gets injured in the first quarter and Tavaris Jackson hands the ball off to AP 30 times, passes to Shiancoe 10 times, and Longwell kicks 4 FG’s.

Miami didn’t beat the vikings…the vikings beat themselves.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/13 "2010-09-24T23:46:18Z")

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Wow, NE + NO D’s match up even better than NO + SF, except for week 10, where NO is on a bye and NE has Pitt + Ben.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/14 "2010-09-24T23:48:01Z")

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Question: How confident are you playing any defense vs Baltimore?

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**Author:** ![A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@A\_Spoonful\_of\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Spoonful_of_Awesome)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/15 "2010-09-25T00:10:25Z")

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I’d love to pick Detroit, but I can’t see the Vikings beating themselves again like they’ve done the past two weeks, especially at home (though they did gain me some ground in last week’s pick 'em. 😃 ). The Lions are on the rise for sure, but this ain’t the week.

I was all set to pick KC over San Francisco until I watched them go blow for blow with New Orleans. Now I just can’t do it.

Miami will continue to roll, taking advantage of the Jets weak offense and lack of Revis. It will be reasonably a low-scoring game but I don’t see Sanchez repeating last week’s performance and Henne seems to have the Jets number. Plus I pretty much despise the Jets.

Saints-Falcons will be a good game. This is a tough one to call. I’m giving it to NO on the strength of their home field but watching their lackluster efforts so far this year, I’m not particularly confident.

And I’m sure Indy will splatter Denver all over the field and the game will be over before halftime, but I just can’t pick against my Broncos. I mean c’mon, you guys are gonna win plenty of games. Can’t you guys just let us have just this one? We’ve had an emotional week and it’s only fair.

My upsets this week (Denver notwithstanding) are Oakland over Arizona (not sure that’s really an upset but Yahoo favors Arizona), and I’m considering Tennessee over the Giants. If Addai can shred the NY defense like that, I can only imagine what Chris Johnson can do. And yes, Tennessee looked godawful last week but they really don’t have to do much more than snap and handoff. They’ll still probably turn the ball over at least once in that progression.

Monday night will be interesting. I’m a secondary Bears fan but Green Bay looks scary good and their defense is a huge step up from the mediocrity the Bears faced in Dallas. Cutler will get frustrated by the Packers constant pressure and when that happens he gets careless and throws interceptions. I don’t like it, but it’s a sad reality.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/16 "2010-09-25T00:10:34Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Forte had 201 combined yards against the Lions. McCoy had 128. The Lions run defense is a disaster, more specifically the tackling. Favre won’t beat them, and if he tries the Vikings are screwed, but Peterson will. He could combine for 250 if Favre checks down the way he’s supposed to. The Lions will rush just 4 and use a ton of zone and the underneath stuff will be wide open, Favre sometimes gets stupid and forces it downfield. IF he sits back and takes what they give him Peterson, Shiancoe and Harvin will all have big games and chew up huge chunks of yardage.

Yes, combo yards for Forte, who I like, especially with Martz’s offense, but that’s inflated with a pretty large gain he had. McCoy was able to run because they had to spy Vick.

I’ll bet Peterson will have a solid game, but I don’t think he’ll be looking at more than 125+ combo yards.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/17 "2010-09-25T07:36:30Z")

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Green Bay is only -3 against the Bears? They’re gonna wreck their shit. Any reason I should hesistate to bet half my disposable cash on this game?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/18 "2010-09-25T10:54:40Z")

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Julius Peppers at home in Soldier Field. Don’t under estimate how bad the Packers O line is and how much home field matters in the division.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/19 "2010-09-25T11:08:54Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Green Bay is only -3 against the Bears? They’re gonna wreck their shit. Any reason I should hesistate to bet half my disposable cash on this game?

Gambling is immoral? 😃

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3-discussion/554810/20 "2010-09-26T00:59:40Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Julius Peppers at home in Soldier Field. Don’t under estimate how bad the Packers O line is and how much home field matters in the division.

Would you say it’s a bad bet, or just explaining why the line is like that?

[The consensus](http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/matchups/g1_summary_16.html)is so far in favor of GB it’s sort of weird. You think they’d have set a higher line. There’s some wisdom in betting against the consensus in sports betting, but this seems legit to me.

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