# NFL Week 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 20, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273 "2012-09-20T15:26:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/121 "2012-09-25T01:33:00Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Wonder what Belicheck will get for grabbing the ref by the arm. A lot more for sure.

I’m thinking he may get suspended for a game or two. The NFL sent a memo to all the coaches to lay off the replacement refs after last week’s debacle, and what he did was pretty much the opposite of that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/122 "2012-09-25T01:44:27Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I’m sorry, what? You’re claiming the Bucs got robbed by bad call now?

They were a robbed of a chance to send it to OT because of a bad call. Obviously it wasn’t a foregone conclusion that they would have scored the touchdown and it was probably even less likely that they would have won if it went to OT; the defense was gassed.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/123 "2012-09-25T01:50:49Z")

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McCarthy isn’t helping an offensive line that is playing poorly.

ETA: Neither is Rodgers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/124 "2012-09-25T01:55:17Z")

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Jesus. Wife has ordered me off TV. Is this number on the [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) stattracker right? _Eight_ sacks for Seattle?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/125 "2012-09-25T01:56:43Z")

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Question on the MNF game.  
About 3 minutes left in the first half. Rogers being pressured and doesn’t go laterally. He just steps back and spikes the ball. The Packers are called for offensive holding but no intentional grounding call. If there were the Seahawks would have chosen that one because it is spot-of-foul and loss of down.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/126 "2012-09-25T01:57:46Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Jesus. Wife has ordered me off TV. Is this number on the [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) stattracker right? _Eight_ sacks for Seattle?

😃

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/127 "2012-09-25T02:00:13Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Jesus. Wife has ordered me off TV. Is this number on the [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) stattracker right? _Eight_ sacks for Seattle?

Seems lime that’s a bit low.

The Packers offensive line is playing very poorly, Rodgers is skittish and holding the ball too long, and McCarthy’s playcalling isn’t helping in the least. So, yeah, 8 sacks.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/128 "2012-09-25T02:00:21Z")

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Did Rogers piss off his whole O-line or something? It looks like The Longest Yard out there.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/129 "2012-09-25T02:01:14Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Question on the MNF game.  
> About 3 minutes left in the first half. Rogers being pressured and doesn’t go laterally. He just steps back and spikes the ball. The Packers are called for offensive holding but no intentional grounding call. If there were the Seahawks would have chosen that one because it is spot-of-foul and loss of down.

As long as the quarterback does not move from under center before spiking the ball, it doesn’t count as grounding. There will also be a TE or WR lined up tight enough to be within ten yards anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/130 "2012-09-25T02:02:28Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Question on the MNF game.  
> About 3 minutes left in the first half. Rogers being pressured and doesn’t go laterally. He just steps back and spikes the ball. The Packers are called for offensive holding but no intentional grounding call. If there were the Seahawks would have chosen that one because it is spot-of-foul and loss of down.

There was a RB within a few yards of the play, IIRC. It was a screen play, and Rodgers threw it about 2 yards short of the RB.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/131 "2012-09-25T02:03:08Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> As long as the quarterback does not move from under center before spiking the ball, it doesn’t count as grounding. There will also be a TE or WR lined up tight enough to be within ten yards anyway.

He dropped back for a pass - it was not a spike to stop the clock. Also, I thought a spike behind the line of scrimmage nullified the 10 yard rule.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/132 "2012-09-25T02:05:46Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> There was a RB within a few yards of the play, IIRC. It was a screen play, and Rodgers threw it about 2 yards short of the RB.

Then it may not have been a penalty but he clearly grounded it. Rogers is not so bad the he can’t throw a ball 5 yards and chucks it into the ground instead.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/133 "2012-09-25T02:06:23Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> He dropped back for a pass - it was not a spike to stop the clock. Also, I thought a spike behind the line of scrimmage nullified the 10 yard rule.

No, a receiver within 10 yards always negates grounding. Plus, there is an “imminent pressure” interpretation procedure; if the quarterback clearly isn’t throwing the ball away just to avoid a sack, it’s not grounding.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/134 "2012-09-25T02:18:06Z")

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Benson rushes for 14 yards on two straight carries to begin half. Solution: go back to throwing.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/135 "2012-09-25T02:24:25Z")

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How many fist downs through penalties on this 1st Packer drive in the 2nd half?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/136 "2012-09-25T02:29:51Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> How many fist downs through penalties on this 1st Packer drive in the 2nd half?

Two. Roughing the passer and 12 men on the field.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/137 "2012-09-25T02:33:00Z")

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I think I saw a Packer breathe a little heavily on a Seahawk.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/138 "2012-09-25T02:47:42Z")

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Held the Packers to 6 points in the 2nd half. Maybe we will start playing defence before they get to our 30 yard line.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/139 "2012-09-25T02:52:26Z")

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Are you posting from the future?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/635273/140 "2012-09-25T02:58:59Z")

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Oops. I think a Packer looked askance at a Seahawk.

ETA: And a Seahawk whispered at Finley.

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