# NFL Week 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 18, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849 "2014-09-18T18:03:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/21 "2014-09-21T20:11:35Z")
The Bills just couldn’t get it together today. The Chargers beat them on both offense and defense. And getting a ridiculous number of penalties didn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/22 "2014-09-21T20:14:11Z")
Eli Manning had his first game without an interception since Week 11 of last year. Giants looked like a real football team this week; won 30-17, and really should’ve had more. They improved last week, too. The optimistic interpretation would be that they just needed extra time to install the new offense. If Eli plays well, the team actually has a lot of talent. Big if, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/23 "2014-09-21T20:25:08Z")
How the hell is the Denver Seattle game not the Sunday night national broadcast?? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/24 "2014-09-21T20:46:51Z")
Didn’t watch much of the Jags-Indy game. How did Bortles look? Stats are pretty solid save a couple ints. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/25 "2014-09-21T20:49:04Z")
As I understand it, CBS and fox get a few vetoes a year as far as keeping games on their schedule and not getting them on SNF/MNF. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/26 "2014-09-21T20:49:38Z")
As a side note…what in gods name is wrong with Brady this year? Is he just cooked, or are his weapons that terrible? Seems like he never completes a pass longer than 4 yards any more. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/27 "2014-09-21T20:52:45Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > As I understand it, CBS and fox get a few vetoes a year as far as keeping games on their schedule and not getting them on SNF/MNF. I heard speculation on the radio that NBC and ESPN wanted to be able to use these two teams later in the season in separate games, essentially spreading the benefits around some more. Seems at least somewhat plausible. I’d be a little surprised if the let CBS and Fox dictate this. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/28 "2014-09-21T21:44:57Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > As a side note…what in gods name is wrong with Brady this year? Is he just cooked, or are his weapons that terrible? Seems like he never completes a pass longer than 4 yards any more. Brady has been questionable past 15 yards downfield for a year or two now, especially to the outside. It’s exacerbated by the fact that his weapons that ARE both good and healthy are Edelman and Vereen, who are both best on those short patterns. The hope is that once Gronk gets fully healthy he’ll open up the deep seam game at least (the deep-ish throw that Brady hasn’t been quite as bad at)… of course, then he’ll probably break something else catching one of them. That said, I suffered through the entire game today, and it was also a case of them wanting to use as little of the playbook as possible for an ‘easy win’. Which almost cost them said win. The Raiders did a really good job with keeping the time of possession from getting out of hand by not going 3 and out too much on offense, no turnovers until the game-ending pick, etc. Incidentally, I had also heard that CBS and Fox get to pick a certain number of games to keep in the late afternoon/early evening slot each year, but I can’t find a good cite for it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/29 "2014-09-21T22:07:52Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Didn’t watch much of the Jags-Indy game. How did Bortles look? Stats are pretty solid save a couple ints. Very impressive, especially considering what a sieve the Jax O line is. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/30 "2014-09-21T23:06:51Z")
So, in the Denver game it’s 17-11 after the TD but before the conversion. Denver decided to kick it, and while I can see the logic, I think the better play is to go for 2. Kick it and it’s 17-12. Go for two and convert and it’s 17-13. Miss the conversion and it’s 17-11. No matter what, Denver still needs a TD for a win. Sure, missing makes it 9 points to a Seattle FG but I think it’s better to take the shot at the 2-pt conversion. Anyone agree or am I laughably wrong? ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/31 "2014-09-21T23:18:06Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > So, in the Denver game it’s 17-11 after the TD but before the conversion. Denver decided to kick it, and while I can see the logic, I think the better play is to go for 2. Kick it and it’s 17-12. Go for two and convert and it’s 17-13. Miss the conversion and it’s 17-11. No matter what, Denver still needs a TD for a win. Sure, missing makes it 9 points to a Seattle FG but I think it’s better to take the shot at the 2-pt conversion. Anyone agree or am I laughably wrong? I would kick the XP there to get it to 5. Then if Denver scores a TD to take a lead later, you can try the 2 pointer to get it to 3. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/32 "2014-09-22T00:33:55Z")
> [@picker](#): > > The cream of the division is definitely Cincinnati though. The rest of us are just playing for a wild card I’m afraid. While as a Bengals fan I’ve been conditioned to wait for the other shoe to drop, and prefer to fly under the radar when they are actually pretty good, I’m going to savor this statement…because for now, it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/33 "2014-09-22T00:43:19Z")
Turned on the Eagles/Redskins game just in time to see the play that started the brawl. …yeah… I expect some fines and maybe suspensions to be leveled. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/34 "2014-09-22T00:57:39Z")
Who started the brawl? How many ejections? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/35 "2014-09-22T01:23:15Z")
Was the socnorB/Seahawks game the Superbowl everyone actually wanted to see? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/36 "2014-09-22T01:43:17Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Who started the brawl? How many ejections? During an ‘interception return’ (it was actually obvious to most that it was an incomplete pass and was later overturned as such) #92 Chris Baker blindsided Nick Foles near the end of the play: > **[NFL News, Expert Analysis, Rumors, Live Updates, & more](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news/)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games This result in Peters of the Eagles getting into Baker’s face and smacking him in the face over the official trying to separate them. Both were ejected but the officials even screwed up that and accidentally ejected #71 of the Redskins (who was on the sidelines). They made the correction. Close up of both hits are seen here: > **[Brawl erupts in Eagles-Redskins game after cheap shot on Nick Foles](https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/eagles-redskins-brawl)** > > Two players were ejected. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/37 "2014-09-22T01:49:33Z")
Unfair. Nick Foles was jogging over toward the play. Baker was just cleanly blocking him ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/38 "2014-09-22T02:06:58Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > Unfair. Nick Foles was jogging over toward the play. Baker was just cleanly blocking him The NFL made rules (Rule 12 article 9) specifically to protect the QB during changes of possession. Hitting the QB during a change of possession is clearly and specifically listed because too many defensive players felt a turnover was free time to slam a QB. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/39 "2014-09-22T03:27:13Z")
dammit Panthers you’re breaking my heart ☹ ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/698849/40 "2014-09-22T04:04:56Z")
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