# NFL Week 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 23, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636 "2016-09-23T13:18:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/61 "2016-09-26T19:52:13Z")

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Ryan Fitzpatrick gives up 6 picks and a pick 6.

I’m pretty sure the Chiefs defense isn’t that good, but it sure is fun pretending.

Note that Fitzpatrick still has two fewer 6 interception games than Joe Namath.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/62 "2016-09-26T19:55:06Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> I’m not sure what your point is here?  
> Even if fumbling or causing fumbles is somewhat skill-based (and if I remember right, data seems to show there’s some skill but more luck), I do know that data shows fumble recovery is complete luck. There were three fumbles and the Patriots recovered them all. That’s getting good breaks. I mean, you really think that the key to this game was Bellichick having the incredible genius-level football mind to say “hey guys, don’t fumble kickoff returns today”?

I’m talking about all fumbles, regardless of whether they’re recovered or lost. Last year, with the new stricter monitoring in place, New England (in a two-way tie with Baltimore) had the fewest fumbles in the league.

So my point was that the evidence is in: The people claiming that they didn’t fumble because they deflated balls were clearly just flat-out wrong. ([Here’s an example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18077639&postcount=115))

> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Necessity and choice are two different matters. Why do you think there were 32 teams in short order?

Money.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/63 "2016-09-26T20:00:39Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> You wouldn’t be saying this if you knew much about, say, birdwatching.
> 
> Why you’re saying it it a thread about baseball is something of a mystery.

Football. This is a thread about football.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/64 "2016-09-26T20:09:08Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Ryan Fitzpatrick gives up 6 picks and a pick 6.
> 
> I’m pretty sure the Chiefs defense isn’t that good, but it sure is fun pretending.
> 
> Note that Fitzpatrick still has two fewer 6 interception games than Joe Namath.

I was surprised to see that because he is normally not that bad which is why I wanted him as a backup in Dallas

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/65 "2016-09-26T20:17:52Z")

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Three observations

1. The Patriots are inhuman - literally. They are androids created by Bill Belichick
2. If Carson Wentz had been picked by Cleveland, he would be considered a horrible rookie quarterback.
3. The NFC West is the most overrated division this season.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/66 "2016-09-26T20:48:18Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> You wouldn’t be saying this if you knew much about, say, birdwatching.
> 
> Why you’re saying it it a thread about baseball is something of a mystery.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Football. This is a thread about football.

Oh come on **Procrustus** , be nice to them. Can’t expect someone from Texas to be able to read that well… 🙂

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/67 "2016-09-26T21:08:57Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Three observations
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> 1. The Patriots are inhuman - literally. They are androids created by Bill Belichick
> 2. If Carson Wentz had been picked by Cleveland, he would be considered a horrible rookie quarterback.
> 3. The NFC West is the most overrated division this season.

The Cleveland Front Office is a comedy show called the Cleveland Clowns

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/68 "2016-09-26T21:34:45Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Football. This is a thread about football.

Er, sorry - I meant football.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/69 "2016-09-26T21:36:37Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> Can’t expect someone from Texas to be able to read that well.

You assume I’m from Texas? Interesting.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/70 "2016-09-26T22:00:39Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> WHOO-HOO!! WENTZYLVANIA !!!
> 
> Very fucking happy right now. 🙂

And you’re getting two first-rounders for Bradford. 😉

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/71 "2016-09-26T22:42:00Z")

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Save some of that happiness if they can win in January. Winning in september means nothing.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/72 "2016-09-27T00:13:35Z")

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Total wins and losses mean something at the end of the regular season.

So… September wins are not meaningless.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/73 "2016-09-27T00:25:21Z")

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> [@AncientHumanoid](#):
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> Total wins and losses mean something at the end of the regular season.
> 
> So… September wins are not meaningless.

I been watching the NFL long enough to know that wins and losses don’t matter until after october.  
Someone said it best on ESPN the other day.  
“The month of September is an extension of the preseason”

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/74 "2016-09-27T01:17:16Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> I been watching the NFL long enough to know that wins and losses don’t matter until after october.

This is clearly not true. A win at the beginning of the season counts just as much as a win at the end of the season. Teams make it to the playoffs based on the record during the entire season.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/75 "2016-09-27T01:36:35Z")

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> [@gazpacho](#):
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> This is clearly not true. A win at the beginning of the season counts just as much as a win at the end of the season. Teams make it to the playoffs based on the record during the entire season.

Please, I seen teams start 5-1, 6-1 and miss the playoffs. I seen a team start 7-2 and miss the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/76 "2016-09-27T02:11:24Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> Please, I seen teams start 5-1, 6-1 and miss the playoffs. I seen a team start 7-2 and miss the playoffs.

And your point is? That when they decide who makes the playoffs they don’t count all the games in the season?

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/77 "2016-09-27T02:15:08Z")

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> [@gazpacho](#):
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> And your point is? That when they decide who makes the playoffs they don’t count all the games in the season?

My point is if you don’t continue to win in November and December, what you did in September and early October means didley poo

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/78 "2016-09-29T21:49:31Z")

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Josh Gordon entering a rehab facility. He’s a lost cause.

> **[Cleveland Browns planning to release Josh Gordon](https://www.nfl.com/news/cleveland-browns-planning-to-release-josh-gordon-0ap3000000711886)**
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> The return of Josh Gordon has hit another snag. The Cleveland Browns wideout is entering a rehabilitation facility and the team is making plans to release him, Ian Rapoport reports.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-3/766636/79 "2016-09-29T23:02:43Z")

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