# NFL Week 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 27, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020 "2012-09-27T14:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/81 "2012-10-01T13:18:42Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The end of that game was odd to me. One of those PI against the Eagles looked super weak; the kind of play you can’t throw a flag on. But that OPI against Barden? I think you could have called that from the International Space Station. Was clear as day to me, blatant OPI. The announcers in the booth thought it was iffy, Mike & Mike thought it could easily not be called. What the heck? If ever there was a blatant pass interference, wasn’t that it? That’s what I thought. The second call against the Eagles wasn’t there at all and shouldn’t have been made. The offensive PI call was a complete mugging. The CB had position and would have made an interception except he was dragged down from behind. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/82 "2012-10-01T13:36:16Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > The CB had position and would have made an interception except he was dragged down from behind. By his face! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/83 "2012-10-01T13:39:00Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The ass-pounding the Jets took was comical on so many levels. I loved it. Sure the points the 49ers scored on me in fantasy was a killer, but it is so much fun watching that team melt down. From Santonio’s handing the ball to defense for a touchdown (granted it was after injury, but don’t you push the ball out of bounds?) to Shonn Greene (can somebody explain to me how he continues to be the lead back when averaging 2.8 ypc?) getting constantly stuffed to Tebow completing his first pass, it’s fun to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/84 "2012-10-01T13:56:44Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > Well, obviously. On what? Was either successful? No. One of them was a Jordy Nelson catch that I could see was incomplete watching it _on my phone_. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/85 "2012-10-01T14:00:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No. One of them was a Jordy Nelson catch that I could see was incomplete watching it _on my phone_. Yep, I knew that was going to bite us in the ass when he threw it. Bad decision by McCarthy. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/86 "2012-10-01T14:10:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No. One of them was a Jordy Nelson catch that I could see was incomplete watching it _on my phone_. The other was on a pass to Jimmy Graham that was ruled a catch, but looked iffy at best. It was a third down play, and if the call was reversed, the Saints would have to punt. I thought it was worth a challenge. On review, I think the Saints benefited from a generous interpretation of the “indisputable video evidence” rule. The call on the field stood, and the drive continued. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/87 "2012-10-01T15:10:07Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Hope he nails this after the timeout. God I hate icing the kicker. Me too! Worse (for me), last week the Steelers iced the kicker and if they _hadn’t_, he would have missed, probably changing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/88 "2012-10-01T16:08:21Z")
[Colts head coach Chuck Pagano has been diagnosed with leukemia.](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8447831/indianapolis-colts-coach-chuck-pagano-leukemia) Bruce Arians will take over as coach for at least six weeks and possible for the rest of the season while Pagano is in treatment. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/89 "2012-10-01T16:19:52Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I loved it. Sure the points the 49ers scored on me in fantasy was a killer, but it is so much fun watching that team melt down. From Santonio’s handing the ball to defense for a touchdown (granted it was after injury, but don’t you push the ball out of bounds?) to Shonn Greene (can somebody explain to me how he continues to be the lead back when averaging 2.8 ypc?) getting constantly stuffed to Tebow completing his first pass, it’s fun to watch. I loved this as a 49er fan and a Nevada alum. Kaepernick, the 49ers backup QB out of Nevada and QB with similar skills as Cam Newton (i.e. they can both run and throw), outrushed the entire Jets team, including a TD. Tebow, the hyped second coming of the option offense in the NFL (or some such garbage), rushed for 0. Sure, Kaepernick was 0/1 on passing attempts, but that was a 60 yard attempt to Moss (that probably should not have been thrown) and he clearly has the arm. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/90 "2012-10-01T16:25:00Z")
_ahem_ Post 42. 🙂 > [@Khadaji](#): > > Me too! Worse (for me), last week the Steelers iced the kicker and if they _hadn’t_, he would have missed, probably changing the game. I was at the Dolphins/Jets game last week and Philbin iced Nick Folk… on a kick that was blocked. I think I was the only person in the stadium who heard the whistle; the 'phins fans were going nuts, and my FIL was sobbing into his beer. I was like, “it’s okay! He fucked up!” ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/91 "2012-10-01T17:18:38Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > You didn’t refer to _any_ play. You said, in very broad terms, [“How many fucking ways can the Packers get fucked by the refs?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15542845&postcount=58), which actually implies more than one play. I assume you’ve forgotten that the Packers had their last game taken from them by a bad call as well. So it _is_ plural. Happily, the ref-fucking didn’t change the outcome this time! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/92 "2012-10-01T17:37:43Z")
> [@straight\_man](#): > > I assume you’ve forgotten that the Packers had their last game taken from them by a bad call as well. So it _is_ plural. Happily, the ref-fucking didn’t change the outcome this time! Not the game, but it may have changed the outcome of my life expectancy. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/93 "2012-10-01T19:31:36Z")
On the final game winning drive, [RG3’s headset wasn’t working](http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--rg3-brushes-off-headset-malfunction-in--skins--win--santana-moss-suspects-bucs-sabotage.html). Barring continual injuries, that kid is going to be a hall of famer. You have no idea how much it hurts deep down in my balls and/or soul when that trade went down. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/94 "2012-10-01T19:43:52Z")
> [@What's wrong with Internet Glurge?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-internet-glurge/78466/18): > > Barring continual injuries, that kid is going to be a hall of famer. After 4 NFL games? You don’t think that just might be a bit premature? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/95 "2012-10-01T19:59:01Z")
Nah. Anyway, why stop there? He’s bound to be ESPN SportsCentury’s #1 athlete of the 21st century, too. Also, President of the Federated Territories of America. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/96 "2012-10-01T20:04:08Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Nah. Anyway, why stop there? He’s bound to be ESPN SportsCentury’s #1 athlete of the 21st century, too. Also, President of the Federated Territories of America. And post-NFL, he’ll win the Nobel prize, and, in an event sure to move **Senor Beef** to tears, he’ll complete the world’s first brain transplant for none other than Jerome Harrison. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/97 "2012-10-01T20:15:59Z")
I may have said he’s going to be a hall of famer pre-draft, so his start only reinforces this. Assuming he doesn’t get cleaved in twain, [what are his flaws](http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/gallery/haters-gonna-hate/haters-gonna-hate-eagle.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/98 "2012-10-01T20:34:32Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Assuming he doesn’t get cleaved in twain, [what are his flaws](http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/gallery/haters-gonna-hate/haters-gonna-hate-eagle.jpg)? He sometimes works too hard. And he watches too much film and cares too much for the Redskins. The guy has a whopping 4 td passes and has played the defensive juggernauts of the Saints, the Bucs, the Bungles and the Rams. He’s been impressive so far, but this hall of fame talk is kinda silly at this point. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/99 "2012-10-02T00:39:26Z")
What the fuck is Gruden on? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020/100 "2012-10-02T01:14:03Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > What the fuck is Gruden on? Same thing he’s always on? I really wish someone would offer him a coaching job he couldn’t refuse so that we wouldn’t have to listen to him anymore. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/636020.md?page=6)