# NFL Week 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251 "2016-09-29T23:01:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/21 "2016-09-30T20:29:30Z")
I don’t think you’re going to rehab for weed. I’m guessing vast quantities of blow. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/22 "2016-10-02T18:18:51Z")
Alcohol is his reason. On the plus side Terelle Pryor is for real. He’s been abusing really good corners all season including preseason. He’s got surprisingly good receiver skills given the time he’s spent at that position but most of it is just size/speed/strength. Shocked Parkey is still the kicker. He has the chance to lose at the last minute again. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/23 "2016-10-02T18:22:59Z")
Skins should be ashamed of themselves for being tied at 17 with the Browns:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/24 "2016-10-02T18:24:55Z")
So let me get this right. Catching the ball, having it in control, taking a few steps and rolling is NOT a complete pass? Horrible call. At this rate catching the ball, running 30 yards for a touchdown then spiking the ball would be ruled incomplete. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/25 "2016-10-02T18:34:09Z")
why is andrew luck considered a Good QB? ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/26 "2016-10-02T18:41:37Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > why is andrew luck considered a Good QB? The problems with colts are numerous, but QB isn’t one of them ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/27 "2016-10-02T18:43:28Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > The problems with colts are numerous, but QB isn’t one of them I beg to differ if u can’t pass on the jags ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/28 "2016-10-02T18:45:45Z")
I don’t think I ever seen the browns move the chains on a NFL team before:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/29 "2016-10-02T18:45:58Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > I beg to differ if u can’t pass on the jags Did you watch the game? Pass after pass bounced right off his receivers’ hands. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/30 "2016-10-02T18:47:29Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > Did you watch the game? Pass after pass bounced right off his receivers’ hands. Yes and like I said, he has no mobility and not that good of a passer ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/31 "2016-10-02T18:47:39Z")
Not too much of interest in the early games, but happy to see Atlanta beating Carolina. I despise Cam Newton and would love to see pouty Cam again. However, from looking at the game stats, the Panters losing doesn’t seem to be on Cam. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/32 "2016-10-02T18:49:27Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Not too much of interest in the early games, but happy to see Atlanta beating Carolina. I despise Cam Newton and would love to see pouty Cam again. However, from looking at the game stats, the Panters losing doesn’t seem to be on Cam. I will sleep good tonight if Dallas, Atlanta, and Buffalo win ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/33 "2016-10-02T19:05:12Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > Yes and like I said, he has no mobility and not that good of a passer Like you said? You know we can go back and read what you posted (or, for that matter, what you didn’t post), right? You’re right that he’s never been all that mobile, and his lousy protection now makes that a bigger deal than it used to be. But if his throws are hitting his receivers in the hands, it’s hard to argue that he’s not that good a passer. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/34 "2016-10-02T19:07:23Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > Like you said? You know we can go back and read what you posted (or, for that matter, what you didn’t post), right? > > You’re right that he’s never been all that mobile, and his lousy protection now makes that a bigger deal than it used to be. But if his throws are hitting his receivers in the hands, it’s hard to argue that he’s not that good a passer. There is nothing you can say to justify a QB not being able to move the chains on the Jags. NOTHING ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/35 "2016-10-02T19:08:35Z")
Slight grab on the hips = defensive PI Grabbing and pulling the safety’s shoulder pad as he reaches for the ball ~= offensive PI :dubious: Looks like the old Seahawks viz. having to play against the refs too. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/36 "2016-10-02T19:10:15Z")
Looks like after the skins got that big win on the road last week, they are going to come home and lose to the Browns:smack: ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/37 "2016-10-02T19:14:14Z")
You seem to think the redskins are clearly a better team than the Browns. They are not. Keep up with that insightful posting though. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/38 "2016-10-02T19:15:30Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > You seem to think the redskins are clearly a better team than the Browns. They are not. > > Keep up with that insightful posting though. He agrees with 98% of the pundits & fans. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/39 "2016-10-02T19:17:21Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > You seem to think the redskins are clearly a better team than the Browns. They are not. > > Keep up with that insightful posting though. the browns are only in this game because Cousins threw a INT. If not for that INt, the game would be out of reach right now You didn’t watch the beginning of the game? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251/40 "2016-10-02T19:23:17Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > He agrees with 98% of the pundits & fans. 98% of the pundits and fans would walk a mile to avoid watching either of those teams play. Cleveland has a lot more going for them than they have in a long time (although without a QB to tie it all together nothing’s going to happen for them) and Washington has a lot less than they thought in Cousins. I think Washington is still better than the Browns, but it’s a close call. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-4/767251.md?page=3)