# NFL Week 5: **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589 "2012-10-03T15:49:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/61 "2012-10-08T02:26:03Z")
Hey, everyone is talking about Brees but nobody is paying attention to how the Bills broke some long-standing records this week. Granted, these were records for defensive failure but they were older than the team itself. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/62 "2012-10-08T02:52:00Z")
Perhaps we should characterize that as a low speed chase. Run Buffalo, run! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/63 "2012-10-08T03:42:30Z")
Well the Saints finally get a win, with a little help from the refs. There was a string of about 4 consecutive penalties at the end of the game, and at least one of them…Offensive PI on Gates…was…um…very generous to the home team. If that had been the replacement refs, the internet might be going into meltdown mode again. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/64 "2012-10-08T10:03:15Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > That would be great if my cable system offered it (I’m assuming that’s the NFL Network). Aren’t you Cablevision? They finally struck a deal with NFL Network and now carry both it and the Redzone channel. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/65 "2012-10-08T13:26:10Z")
I think Cablevision already had those channels. It’s Time Warner that just struck a deal. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/66 "2012-10-08T13:48:06Z")
Cablevision just got them for this season, within the past couple months. (Says the longtime Cablevision subscriber…) EDIT: The deal was announced in mid-August of this year. Story [here](http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/16/cablevision-has-signed-a-deal-with-the-nfl-network/). They are the main NY cable provider, so I’m thinking it’s a decent chance that **D\_Odds** has Cablevision and just isn’t aware he now has those channels. The only reason I knew is because when I reformatted my hard drive in August I called up Cablevision for help in re-setting up my internet and the announcement was included in the “welcome to our automated service” preamble. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/67 "2012-10-08T14:34:33Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Browns-Giants is of zero interest to us in Chicago … Meanwhile, those of us in Columbus, Ohio didn’t get the Browns game. Apparently I’d have been better off almost anywhere else in the country other than, you know, the 2nd biggest Browns market. And trust me, we got Bengals fans outnumbered by a long shot around here. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/68 "2012-10-08T15:44:48Z")
> [@2012 NFL Offseason - OTAs and Training Camp](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2012-nfl-offseason-otas-and-training-camp/620798/90): > > Teams ran on the Browns last year because they couldn’t stop it. Teams knew that they could grind out yardage on the ground and score late against them. So unless their run D shows drastic improvement, their stats will be deceptive. > > Here are the first 5 games for the Browns: > > Philly > @Cincy > Buffalo > @Baltimore > @NYG > > They might start 0-5. I called it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/69 "2012-10-08T16:08:28Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Well the Saints finally get a win, with a little help from the refs. There was a string of about 4 consecutive penalties at the end of the game, and at least one of them…Offensive PI on Gates…was…um…very generous to the home team. If that had been the replacement refs, the internet might be going into meltdown mode again. Collingsworth even made a comment that San Diego fans might want the replacement refs back. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/70 "2012-10-08T17:40:25Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Hey, everyone is talking about Brees but nobody is paying attention to how the Bills broke some long-standing records this week. > > Granted, these were records for defensive failure but they were older than the team itself. Yeah. I really wish the NFL would stop the collective fellating of Drew Brees and the Saints. He’s a good quarterback, yes, and the team went from a stadium filled with Katrina victims to Super Bowl contenders, but for Pete’s sake, can we let up on the misty-eyed sap already? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/71 "2012-10-09T01:52:48Z")
That was a really ugly chop by Slauson on Cushing. Learn that from Suh, did you? ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/72 "2012-10-09T03:54:11Z")
Jets kept it closer than I expected, but in the end I got to see Rex lose again! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/73 "2012-10-09T05:04:05Z")
I think the Jets need to simplify their game. Their current style of play seem to be too complicated for them to execute it on the field. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/74 "2012-10-09T11:55:41Z")
In New York, play execute you! ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/75 "2012-10-09T12:43:25Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > This “Ray, meet Tom” ad has been cracking me up all day. > Cute kid. I actually back it up on th DVR and watch it again. It is a well executed joke. They should submit it for an Emmy. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/76 "2012-10-09T12:51:22Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > Jets kept it closer than I expected, but in the end I got to see Rex lose again! The Jets kept it a lot closer than anyone expected, but any Jets fan who had hope for them pulling out a victory hasn’t been paying attention to this team. A Jets turnover in that situation was a foregone conclusion when they got the ball. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/77 "2012-10-09T13:01:50Z")
The Jets did play well and that against a Texans D that was at times lights out. Watt a night for Watt! Jeez but that was a fortituous draft. What’s always concerned me about the Texans though is that their offense just doesn’t have that killer instinct. You could tell last night after their initial drive went for an easy score and then the D had the Jets backed up deep in their own territory that the Texan’s O just kinda relaxed and thought they could coast. Instead of putting the screws to the Jets they went 3 and out. They need to learn to put teams away and that starts with Schaub. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/78 "2012-10-09T14:02:15Z")
No, it starts with Kubiak. He just doesn’t believe in passing to win. That’s part of the reason why Andre Johnson has never scored more than 10 touchdowns in a season; the Texans don’t throw in the red zone. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/79 "2012-10-09T14:23:01Z")
Can a Jets fan explain to me why Shonn Greene and his 2.9 ypc is still the starting RB? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589/80 "2012-10-09T15:03:11Z")
Rex Ryan refuses to bench a starter. That’s pretty much it. That said, Bilal Powell hasn’t been significantly better and Joe McKnight is fragile. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/636589.md?page=5)