# NFL Week 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234 "2013-10-03T00:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/101 "2013-10-07T02:17:29Z")
I am proud of the Bengals defense…they played to win and they did. Snapped Brady’s 52 game streak of throwing for a TD they did. WHO DEY! ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/102 "2013-10-07T02:45:11Z")
And Schaub does it again. He is really quieting the critics with his play. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/103 "2013-10-07T02:51:49Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > Isn’t the answer pretty much always “Same as the number that took the under” ? IOW, the line gets adjusted in order to make the bets on either side (close to) equal. A common misconception. They adjust the line to smooth things out, but they can’t move it enough to totally balance things without creating a set of much worse problems for themselves, and in any event unbalanced betting on a particular game isn’t actually a problem, per se. Sure, in an ideal world the books would like to see balanced action and just take their percentage, but a majority of games (in the NFL, at least, and I assume most other sports) receive action that’s unbalanced past the point that the books are guaranteed a win. And like I said, that’s ok. Think of it like roulette. When a casino spins a roulette wheel, it’s basically never going to be a guaranteed win for the house. They might win money or they might lose money on a given spin, but they don’t care about that because every spin has a negative expected value for the bettor, so the house gains equity with each spin, and so in a very real sense the house makes money no matter what. It’s the same deal with sports betting: as long as they’re satisfied that the line isn’t super-exploitable by sharp bettors (i.e. that it’s pretty close to true), the house generally doesn’t mind so much that the betting is unbalanced, since it’s as likely to help them as hurt them. Thanks to the vigorish, they gain equity either way. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/104 "2013-10-07T03:58:53Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Are you serious? Rae Carruth or Chris Henry; those are the only two ways he takes himself out of the first round at this point. Not cool. Not only was Henry far more talented than that murderer, he wasn’t a murderer, despite his arrests. If Slim was alive today the Bengals offense would be nigh on unstoppable. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/105 "2013-10-07T04:36:49Z")
Also: Hah, ha, tom Brady, whoop whoop, tom Brady, failure tom Brady… Did anyone else notice he is getting a bald spot on the back of his head? Say it ain’t so, Bieber! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/106 "2013-10-07T06:02:00Z")
Damn,you guys suck. Where are all the NFL fans? Oh right…a Chicago based board, they lost (badly), and the Green Bay fans are embarrassed to crow over a win against the fucking Lions. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/107 "2013-10-07T11:59:05Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Also: Hah, ha, tom Brady, whoop whoop, tom Brady, failure tom Brady… > Did anyone else notice he is getting a bald spot on the back of his head? Say it ain’t so, Bieber! I think Brady’s [new post-game interview look](http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2013/10/tom-brady-new-yet-familiar-look.html) suits him. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/108 "2013-10-07T12:14:48Z")
All anyone remembers about the 2002 NBA Playoffs is the Western Conference Finals between the Lakers and the Kings, a great 7-game series marred by the “rigged” Game 6. LA’s subsequent sweep of the Nets, to the extent that it’s remembered, is known only as one of the least interesting or competitive NBA Finals in recent memory. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/109 "2013-10-07T13:20:21Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > I think Brady’s [new post-game interview look](http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2013/10/tom-brady-new-yet-familiar-look.html) suits him. Good Lord, what’s up with that haircut? LOL. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/110 "2013-10-07T14:29:16Z")
I was the only guy picking the Raiders? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/111 "2013-10-07T19:37:59Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > I was the only guy picking the Raiders? Speaking of which, has there ever been an 11:35pm EST Sunday Night kickoff time before? I can’t remember ever having seen that. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/112 "2013-10-07T21:07:18Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Speaking of which, has there ever been an 11:35pm EST Sunday Night kickoff time before? I can’t remember ever having seen that. More relevantly, has Thursday Night Football ever kicked off at 11:35pm on a Sunday before? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/113 "2013-10-07T22:54:57Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > More relevantly, has Thursday Night Football ever kicked off at 11:35pm on a Sunday before? Maybe I don’t get what you’re saying. I thought that you meant that the super late game last night replaced next Thursday’s game but I checked and there is a Bears/Giants game scheduled for Thursday so I’m not sure what you meant by that. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/114 "2013-10-07T23:54:20Z")
ESPN just said the Browns are in talks to trade Gordon to the 49ers. Yes, good idea, get rid of the youngest guy on your team who’s going to be a top player at his position. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/115 "2013-10-08T00:14:34Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > ESPN just said the Browns are in talks to trade Gordon to the 49ers. Yes, good idea, get rid of the youngest guy on your team who’s going to be a top player at his position. Why on Earth would the Browns trade Gordon? I wonder what they are expecting to get in return? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/116 "2013-10-08T00:23:37Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Maybe I don’t get what you’re saying. I thought that you meant that the super late game last night replaced next Thursday’s game but I checked and there is a Bears/Giants game scheduled for Thursday so I’m not sure what you meant by that. I think it’s just a joke. The NFL Network called it a special presentation of Thursday Night Football. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/117 "2013-10-08T00:23:48Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > ESPN just said the Browns are in talks to trade Gordon to the 49ers. Yes, good idea, get rid of the youngest guy on your team who’s going to be a top player at his position. > [@](#): > > @AdamSchefter 4h > > Browns-49ers have discussed trade for WR Josh Gordon. Deal unlikely with Mario Manningham coming off PUP, Crabtree slated to return in Nov. I interpreted that to mean that they discussed it, past tense, but couldn’t agree on terms and now unlikely to happen. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/118 "2013-10-08T00:30:07Z")
I just wanted Brady’s streak to last long enough to take the record from Drew Brees o well he can start again next week ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/119 "2013-10-08T00:31:10Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I interpreted that to mean that they discussed it, past tense, but couldn’t agree on terms and now unlikely to happen. Still, it shows that they were still trying to shop him even though he basically is the only element that gets their offense running. Because Lombardi hates the kid. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234/120 "2013-10-08T00:33:10Z")
Yeah, well if he had caught that ball Thursday, Hoyer would still be healthy! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/670234.md?page=7)