# NFL Week 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 8, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925 "2015-10-08T14:26:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/41 "2015-10-12T02:06:35Z")
The Ravens have blown 4th quarter leads in 3 of their 4 losses; in the first, the blew a lead with 22 seconds remaining in the third quarter. The post-Suggs defense is far from good, but they’re… ok… for the first 45 minutes of every game. Then they turn to paper. After more than 15 years of the defense carrying the team, it’s more than a little weird change to see Baltimore’s offense doing everything they can to bail out the defense. > [@eschereal](#): > > Maybe someone thought it was the Argos and the Rough Riders or something. You _can_ score one point in their game. But I think the conversion runback gets you 2, does it not? No cite, but I think it gets you however many points the offense was attempting. If you return a 2 point attempt, you’d get 2; if you block a kick and return it, you’d get one. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/42 "2015-10-12T02:07:48Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Stolen from reddit: Quoth the Raven “oh and four” One and four, but that’s small comfort. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/43 "2015-10-12T02:24:28Z")
The Saints looked pitiful on both sides of the ball today. I’m starting to think Brees is done in New Orleans after this year, and may need to retire. He’s lost velocity, and I think he may have reinjured the shoulder a little today. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/44 "2015-10-12T02:43:08Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > I want say a forfeited NFL game default score is 1-0, but not entirely sure. Nope, 2-0. [http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/emergencies](http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/emergencies) > [@](#): > > • Forfeit . The Commissioner, (except in cases of disciplinary action; see last section on “Removing Team from Field”), League President, and their representatives, including referees, are not authorized unilaterally to declare forfeits. A forfeit occurs only when a game is not played because of the failure or refusal of one team to participate. In that event, the other team, if ready and willing to play, is the winner by a score of 2-0. ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/45 "2015-10-12T05:10:44Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Hmm. It is now possible to score one point, but the opponent would have to have at least six points, because it would happen on a PAT. > > ETA: no wait, I think it would happen on your own PAT… With new rules this year, a highly unlikely though not inconceivable 1 point safety on a pat, for the defense, could result with a team having a final score of 1… Though it would still need to be 6-1 at a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/46 "2015-10-12T06:19:49Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > According to CBS, the score of chi-kc is currently 0-1. On the bottom scroll, right? Wow, I didn’t misread that! ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/47 "2015-10-12T06:35:59Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > According to CBS, the score of chi-kc is currently 0-1. In case anyone didn’t already know, the first score was on a sack-fumble in the end zone. There wasn’t a very clear “on the field” call during the game before going to the booth to review it. But, since it was certainly either a 2 point safety or a 6 point recovery for a TD it was a scoring play either way. It’s probably a mistake on CBS’s part but it’s possible that it was an intentional placeholder for the TBD score coming out of the commercial break preceding the booth decision. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/48 "2015-10-12T09:59:40Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > With new rules this year, a highly unlikely though not inconceivable 1 point safety on a pat, for the defense, could result with a team having a final score of 1… Though it would still need to be 6-1 at a minimum. Yes, that’s the one. I suspect we’ll never see it happen, though. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/49 "2015-10-12T10:49:29Z")
Guess Rogers is human, but luckily the Pack out-intercepted the Rams (I was out enjoying the nice day and only saw the last quarter and part of the third) Brian ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/50 "2015-10-12T12:39:59Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > How 'bout, “Stafford gets benched while the rest of the squad gets ripped to shreds by the best team in the league.” I came in from mowing the lawn and saw Stafford throw the first TD of the game. I said to myself, “Nah, you’re not fooling me this week, Lions”, and went and did some other chores. It was 35-7 when I came back. At least the Wings look good this year! I’ll be hanging out in the NHL thread, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/51 "2015-10-12T13:28:20Z")
I assume all the people will be jumping off the Seahawks bandwagon. I truly enjoy watching this group of egomaniac prima donnas lose. The stupid 12th man gimmick can be returned back to college ball. Maybe they can pass around Russell Wilson’s Jesus Juice. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/52 "2015-10-12T14:10:31Z")
Josh McCown is your Browns franchise single game record holder for passing yards with 457. And this with almost undoubtedly the worst receiving group in the league. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/53 "2015-10-12T14:16:05Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Yeah, it’s odd. Unless Clausen has to come in again, I think it’s going to much closer than that. Equally odd is that they only gave the Cardinals 2.5 over the Lions. I should start betting on sports. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/54 "2015-10-12T14:21:36Z")
And no QB controversy in Detroit despite Stafford having to sit on the bench for being just terrible against the Cardinals. What happened to that guy, though? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/55 "2015-10-12T14:45:04Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I assume all the people will be jumping off the Seahawks bandwagon. I truly enjoy watching this group of egomaniac prima donnas lose. > > The stupid 12th man gimmick can be returned back to college ball. Maybe they can pass around Russell Wilson’s Jesus Juice. Hey we’ll be back just as soon as we can make a first down in the 4th quarter to hold on to a lead (going back to the last Super Bowl). Rookie mistake not dragging that foot. ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/56 "2015-10-12T14:45:44Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > And no QB controversy in Detroit despite Stafford having to sit on the bench for being just terrible against the Cardinals. What happened to that guy, though? Their coaching is just terrible. There have been numerous reports that the opposing teams know exactly what plays the Lions are running very frequently during the games, and they are able to jump the routes due to that. The offensive coordinator is trying to make Stafford into an under-center QB, when he’s clearly more comfortable in the shotgun. He’s trying to make this a dink-and-dunk, ball control offense, when the personnel (Stafford, Calvin, Golden Tate) is built to go down the field. Look at when the Lions have been at their best this year: hurry up situations. It’s disgusting to watch a coach ruin a team like this. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/57 "2015-10-12T16:27:44Z")
That explains why Theo Riddick had 10 catches. He’s a great run-after-catch receiver, but not the downfield threat that Megatron and Tate are. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/58 "2015-10-12T16:49:38Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Yes, a PAT returned by the defense is worth 2. I want say a forfeited NFL game default score is 1-0, but not entirely sure. CFL I believe and NCAA too IIRC. Factoid: a forfeited baseball game is scored 9-0 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/59 "2015-10-12T17:04:12Z")
There appears to be a [one-point safety rule on extra points](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/22/nfl-may-see-its-first-one-point-safety/) which, at least in theory, could be scored by either team. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925/60 "2015-10-12T20:25:28Z")
So, I know it’s early, and this is obviously just my misplaced Bears optimism, but I think the NFC wild card race is going to be crazy this year. Only 5 teams are currently over .500. I think the East will end up in the usual Week 17 battle for the division winner. The Vikings and the Bears have an easiest enough schedule that one of them could grab the Wildcard spot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-5/733925.md?page=4)