# NFL Week 6 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [October 7, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746 "2025-10-07T14:19:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/21 "2025-10-10T00:55:17Z")
The trade is actually Flacco and a 6th round draft pick for a 5th round draft pick, which values Flacco at the difference between a 5th and 6th round pick. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/22 "2025-10-10T00:57:04Z")
Flacco is valued at about the price of a foot-long sub sandwich, just the sandwich, not a meal, no double meat. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/23 "2025-10-10T01:41:09Z")
I wonder how soon veteran players are going to get tired of the “Johnny College QB RAH RAH!!!” energy Jaxson Dart and JJ McCarthy exude on the field. I’m guessing the answer is greatly related to the current number of wins of the team. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/24 "2025-10-10T02:02:03Z")
The NFL is certainly putting up a lot of unexpectedly-interesting games this year. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/25 "2025-10-10T02:12:40Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I wonder how soon veteran players are going to get tired of the “Johnny College QB RAH RAH!!!” energy Jaxson Dart and JJ McCarthy exude on the field. I just saw Dart high-five an official who was holding his hand up in a signal. I like the enthusiasm but dude, come on. You’re a starting NFL QB now, not a guy who won a sweepstakes contest to be on the field as a special guest of the team. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/26 "2025-10-10T03:14:56Z")
Eagles now 4-2. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/27 "2025-10-10T13:22:51Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > the sheer arrogance of Dan Campbel > [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I’d like to hear more about this, because I have not seen any hint of it. I’m curious about this as well. When Campbell was first hired and talked about biting off kneecaps, I thought “who the hell does this guy think he is-- a cartoon version of a WWE heel?” But since then he seems to talk in pretty typical coach-speak. “This was a great win, but we’re nowhere near satisfied. We did really well with (X) and (Y) execution, but we still need to improve (Z)”. That sort of stuff. I don’t recall hearing anything particularly arrogant or controversial. Maybe the local news only shows positive clips of his interviews and after-game pressers. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/28 "2025-10-10T18:19:52Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Eagles now 4-2. Ugly loss by the Eagles to a 1-4 team with a rookie on his 2nd? 3rd? start. I only watched the highlights, but to my eye it looked like the Giants defense came to play and the Eagles defense came to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/29 "2025-10-10T18:27:13Z")
I hate Thursday games. The players and coaches are operating on a short schedule and the quality of the product on the field is, to be polite, inconsistent. Tells us little about the teams themselves. It is hard to judge based on that game if the Giants are actually threatening to be competent or if the Eagles are actually in trouble or anything in between. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/30 "2025-10-10T18:39:25Z")
The interception is what flipped the game outcome. Up to that point, there was every indication the Eagles were about to close the gap to 27-24 and, with eight minutes remaining to play, Hurts and Co. had great chances. Instead, that INT was basically a de facto pick six and flipped it to 34-17. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/31 "2025-10-10T19:05:39Z")
The most exciting part of the game was the Eagles running the tush-push for 4 straight plays. I’m so glad the rules weren’t changed, so we can continue to see such fun, exciting plays. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/32 "2025-10-10T19:11:24Z")
I’m surprised there aren’t compression injuries. I would imagine that the tush push could involve the QB or other people being buried beneath 600+ pounds of human mass. And when leaping pancaking force of impact is included, it sounds like a crushing injury waiting to happen. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/33 "2025-10-10T19:14:40Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > The interception is what flipped the game outcome. Up to that point, there was every indication the Eagles were about to close the gap to 27-24 and, with eight minutes remaining to play, Hurts and Co. had great chances. > > Instead, that INT was basically a de facto pick six and flipped it to 34-17 I don’t disagree, but on paper the Eagles should not have been down by 10 with half a quarter to go. But they were tackling like shit all night and Hurts was under a lot of pressure and couldn’t really break contain. > [@TroutMan](#): > > The most exciting part of the game was the Eagles running the tush-push for 4 straight plays. I’m so glad the rules weren’t changed, so we can continue to see such fun, exciting plays Amen, brother. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/34 "2025-10-10T19:29:41Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Ugly loss by the Eagles to a 1-4 team with a rookie on his 2nd? 3rd? start. A few things to keep in mind. The team was 0-3 with Russell Wilson. In week 4, Dart was made the starter, and the Giants had their first win against the undefeated Chargers. This week, they had their second win against the Eagles, who were defending champions. You can’t give Dart _all_ of the credit, of course (and arguably the big hero from this game was fellow rookie Skattebo), but it’s interesting that they went from being winless to defeating two solid teams in a row after the QB change. The team is undefeated with Dart as the starter (in an **extremely** small sample size). Also, when Dart got hurt and went in the concussion protocol, Wilson was there to come out and show exactly why he was benched, being completely ineffective and killing what was a good drive to force a punt. Fans booed and HC Daboll went ballistic. Luckily, Dart was available by time the Giants got the ball back again. That bit where Wilson showed up and crapped the bed suggests that the idea that Dart is a huge upgrade might be legitimate and not just coincidental with the team fixing its own issues independent of him. I’m not ready to call Dart the next hot rookie QB yet (especially if he keeps stupidly charging into defenders head-first like a video game character), but there might be potential there. Maybe. This might be a sign of a decent Giants team as much as a bad showing by the Eagles (but no question the Eagles made huge mistakes in this game). > [@Velocity](#): > > I would imagine that the tush push could involve the QB or other people being buried beneath 600+ pounds of human mass. That sounds like the potential result of any football play that occurs near the line of scrimmage. Running backs deal with that sort of thing on a regular basis. (They also have shorter careers than players at other positions, of course, often aging out of the league by 30.) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/35 "2025-10-10T21:16:13Z")
I thought the Giants played great, especially their D-Line. Dart made some throws, Scatterbo looked good, and the Eagles, while disappointing, weren’t awful. I know it’s a thing to hate on Thursday games, but it shouldn’t take away from a Giants team that played better than they had all year. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/36 "2025-10-10T22:12:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > defeating two solid teams in a row after the QB change Giants lost to the Saints last week in Dart’s second start. This was his third. I have heard it said that if not for turning the ball over _five consecutive drives,_ they would have beat the Saints and Dart would be 3-0. Of course, Dart himself was personally responsible for three of those five consecutive turnovers. (Two picks and a fumble.) The key difference has been a seismic shift for me as a New York football fan. Neither NY team has been competitive at all for a decade, except for the first season Daboll joined the Giants. The Giants have actually been competitive this season. So while that Saints loss was bad, outside of those five turnover plays, the other 50+ plays the Giants snapped were pretty darn good. Normally (before Dart) they have looked inept and embarrassing. Not against the Saints. They actually looked good outside of shooting themselves in the foot five times in a row. Hell, even Russell Wilson looked good in the loss to the Cowboys. My only real concern is that the success is largely or at least in part because of the rah-rah energy, which I do not view as sustainable. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/37 "2025-10-10T22:36:12Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Giants lost to the Saints last week in Dart’s second start. This was his third. Thanks for the correction. I had _thought_ that Dart had lost a game with the team, but went and quickly checked on it, and the sources I was reading clearly glossed over that and ignored that it happened, which convinced me that my memory was wrong, so that’s what I was basing my post on. Thanks for confirming that my memory was better than my (quick and not at all thorough) research before my post. > [@EllisDee](#): > > I have heard it said that if not for turning the ball over _five consecutive drives,_ they would have beat the Saints and Dart would be 3-0. Of course, Dart himself was personally responsible for three of those five consecutive turnovers. (Two picks and a fumble.) Sure, and if it wasn’t for the games they lost, every NFL team is undefeated! 😆 > [@EllisDee](#): > > My only real concern is that the success is largely or at least in part because of the rah-rah energy, which I do not view as sustainable. I agree with the observation about the massive energy he has. I get a bit of a Cam Newton vibe from him. Not with his personality, or the way he plays the game, but in the sense that he puts _everything_ into a play to win. Which is not good for a QB. There is a reason why QBs will go out of bounds and slide on a scramble and toss the ball away and other things to protect themselves. If a defensive player or a running back or a wide receiver gets hurt, you have the next person on the depth chart step up, and you might have a drop in quality but otherwise things will proceed as usual. If the QB gets hurt, you change your entire game strategy. He _cannot_ play that way forever. But balance that with the fact that he’s a rookie early in the season. He has a chance to learn and get better. He can develop. Look at how dramatically different so many successful QBs are from their rookie years until their veteran years. You might be seeing the ceiling of what the guy can do. Only time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/38 "2025-10-10T22:48:43Z")
The real problem is that Daniel Jones’ current success in Indianapolis suggests the problem is the Giants (not to mention an indictment of Anthony Richardson). ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/39 "2025-10-10T22:55:43Z")
I’ve been indicting Anthony Richardson since the Colts expressed interest in drafting him. Ask anyone here. Not a fan of is, and I’m a diehard Colts supporter. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746/40 "2025-10-10T23:26:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Sure, and if it wasn’t for the games they lost, every NFL team is undefeated! 😆 I mean, I get your point. But the fact that the Giants snapped dozens and dozens of plays where they looked good is a sea change. The past decade it’s been more like five decent plays per game where the other 50+ plays they look utterly incompetent. Reversing those numbers so that it’s mostly good plays with a handful of terrible ones is actually a massive improvement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/1023746.md?page=3)