# NFL Week 6

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 15, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941 "2017-10-15T16:10:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/1 "2017-10-15T16:10:33Z")

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Thursday  
Eagles 28, Panthers 23

Sunday early  
CHI @ BAL  
GB @ MIN  
SF @ WAS  
DET @ NO  
MIA @ ATL  
CLE @ HOU  
NE @ NYJ

Sunday late  
TB @ ARI  
LAR @ JAX  
LAC @ OAK  
PIT @ KC

SNF  
NYG @ DEN

MNF  
IND @ TEN

I can’t stop saying “LA Clippers” in my head when I see LAC.

Also, isn’t it pretty weird that the LAC @ JAX game is a late game? Jacksonville is east coast, so that’s not a reason. And if they’re trying to cultivate an LA fan base for the Clippers or Chargers, wouldn’t they want them on their own separate time apart from the Rams so both games could be watched by the locals?

I guess they figure being on at 10am PST is worse than being up against the other LA team.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/2 "2017-10-15T17:05:44Z")

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I know the Jags are trying to be London’s team. It is a 5 hour time difference between JAX and London, so maybe they’ll be shown in prime time there.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/3 "2017-10-15T17:55:00Z")

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Yesterday was a board game day at my local game group and I was looking forward to writing up a report during the lulls/commercials during the Packer game. Now I am leaning toward not even watching.  
If I didn’t have the report to write up I’d use the opportunity to catch up on my DVR queue.

Brian

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/4 "2017-10-15T18:09:36Z")

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I despise the Baltimore Ravens so it’s nice to see this Chicago Bears team beating up on them at the two minute warning.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/5 "2017-10-15T18:11:32Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Yesterday was a board game day at my local game group and I was looking forward to writing up a report during the lulls/commercials during the Packer game. Now I am leaning toward not even watching.

Suffering through a 7-7 close game is really rough, I feel for you. Why even bother.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/6 "2017-10-15T18:18:20Z")

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Well, I stopped right after the 3 and out after in the interception.  
Ok, I checked again and another 3 and out after a TD – think the Pack is doing better if I don’t watch…

Brian

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**Author:** ![Hintur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@Hintur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hintur)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/7 "2017-10-15T19:46:07Z")

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Five letters here, just for everybody out there in Packerland: B-R-O-K-E.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/8 "2017-10-15T20:19:45Z")

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It was not so much how this game was going, but the prospects for the rest of the season that caused me to tune out. Fair Weather Fan? Perhaps so. Note that I don’t even watch if the Pack isn’t playing (I might catch a Badger game if I am REALLY bored, though I most likely will be watching Netflix instead)

Brian

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/9 "2017-10-15T20:29:21Z")

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I’m a solid Pats fan, but the call against the Jets that turned a touchdown into a touchback was bogus.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/10 "2017-10-15T20:29:51Z")

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Fuck. Just fuck.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/11 "2017-10-15T22:03:03Z")

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Someone check if the NY replay ref recently got a new car from a Massachusetts dealership. He should be refing high school football next week.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/12 "2017-10-16T01:49:19Z")

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Looks like the correct ruling to me. Having a fumble into the end zone and then out of bounds become a touchback for the defense is fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/13 "2017-10-16T02:42:18Z")

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Damn, if Denver’s defense is having an off day, they don’t have a chance. Siemian is just not a good quarterback.

And going back to Thursday’s game, I don’t get to see Carolina play very often but every time I do they always lose, badly. I really don’t understand how they beat anyone with that offense, which as far as I can tell comprises entirely of: throw a 40-yard incompletion (or interception), check down pass for no gain, throw another 40-yard incompletion (or interception), punt, repeat.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/14 "2017-10-16T02:45:31Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Looks like the correct ruling to me. Having a fumble into the end zone and then out of bounds become a touchback for the defense is fucking stupid.

That happened in the Seahawks-Rams just last week. The replay official said that he lost control of the ball before stepping on the sideline and the ball hit the pylon, making it a touchback. The call was exacto-knife close.

What would you call it? Perhaps a “rouge” point for the D? Rouge points in the CFL are pretty amusing; I think it would be great to institute rouge points in some form in the NFL, but they would have to adjust kick coverage rules to make run-backs less brutal.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/15 "2017-10-16T04:08:41Z")

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Saying a fumble into the end zone and out of bounds is stupid, I support that opinion, but like it or not that’s what the rule is. If you lose control before it crosses the pylon and/or goal line it’s not a score, and if you fail to recover it then it’s a turnover.

I’m curious what else should be done. Maybe the ball is kept but returned to the spot it was fumbled?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/16 "2017-10-16T11:40:31Z")

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Yes, that’s the rule, but I doubt it will be next year. Agreed that a ball fumbled into the end zone and not recovered in-bounds will be dead at the spot of the fumble, and that a fumble recovered by the fumbling player with no one else gaining possession in the meantime will be treated as if it didn’t happen.

Weird play, but that’s how you get picayune rules.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/17 "2017-10-16T11:44:22Z")

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Put it one the one like a PI in the end zone? Seems silly to disincentivise getting the ball farther.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/18 "2017-10-16T11:49:50Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Saying a fumble into the end zone and out of bounds is stupid, I support that opinion, but like it or not that’s what the rule is. If you lose control before it crosses the pylon and/or goal line it’s not a score, and if you fail to recover it then it’s a turnover.
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> I’m curious what else should be done. Maybe the ball is kept but returned to the spot it was fumbled?

Everywhere else on the field a fumble out of bounds is given back to the fumbling team. Even when it’s a safety this principle holds. Returning it to the fumbled spot seems perfectly rational to me. That also goes along with the anti-fumble-rooskie rule about the offense recovering but not advancing a fumble.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/19 "2017-10-16T12:44:47Z")

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I think the end zone fumble rule is a good one – it encourages ball security around the end zones, which is always a good idea. Teams should be even more careful handling the ball near both end zones.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/798941/20 "2017-10-16T12:46:17Z")

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The Saints Lions game was totally nuts. Saints had 3 defensive TDs – Lions had a punt return and another defensive TD. Plus lots of offensive big plays.

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