# NFL Week 6

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 12, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832 "2018-10-12T01:05:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/1 "2018-10-12T01:05:21Z")

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Late as always

\*\*Thursday  
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Philadelphia Eagles (-2.5) at New York Giants  
\*\*Sunday early  
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons (-3.5)

Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals (-3)

Los Angeles Chargers (-1) at Cleveland Browns

Chicago Bears (-2) at Miami Dolphins

Seattle Seahawks (-2) vs. Oakland Raiders (in London)

Arizona Cardinals at Minnesota Vikings (-9.5)

Indianapolis Colts at New York Jets (-2.5)

Carolina Panthers at Washington Redskins (-2)

Buffalo Bills at Houston Texans (-8.5)

**Sunday late**

Los Angeles Rams (-6.5) at Denver Broncos

Jacksonville Jaguars (-2) at Dallas Cowboys

Baltimore Ravens (-2) at Tennessee Titans

\*\*SNF  
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Kansas City Chiefs at New England Patriots (-3.5)

\*\*MNF  
\*\*San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers (-7.5)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/2 "2018-10-12T01:16:56Z")

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If you listen very closely to the boos, you can hear “who drafts a RB in a qb-heavy draft with the #2 overall when your qb is old and washed up” but it’s subtle.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/3 "2018-10-12T01:44:02Z")

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Now that we’re 7 years of mediocrity past his impressive 2011 post-season run, can we finally close the book on any possibility of Eli Manning ever being considered “elite”?

If he makes it into the HoF, it’ll be the biggest joke since Namath.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/4 "2018-10-12T01:47:09Z")

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Imagine one of the other guys chatting up a woman, and she says, “_You were backup for **who**?_”

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/5 "2018-10-12T02:21:43Z")

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If his name was Eli Smith, he’s have to buy a ticket to get into the football hall of fame. And no, he can’t use a Groupon discount!

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/6 "2018-10-12T02:38:17Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> If you listen very closely to the boos, you can hear “who drafts a RB in a qb-heavy draft with the #2 overall when your qb is old and washed up” but it’s subtle.

Blech, Barkley is a once in a decade player. And no QB in the draft was better than a 70-30 gamble. Let Eli shit in his depends for another season since the dumb ass owner is married to him, and take Saquon and your top 3 pick chance at a QB pick next year. I hate the giants, for the record, but they lucked the fuck out when he fell to them.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/7 "2018-10-12T04:12:18Z")

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It’s looking like the #1 overall pick next year will be a QB who has lots of toys to play with, and will either start the season opener or the first game after the bye, depending on if Eli retires in a huff.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/8 "2018-10-12T04:13:02Z")

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That’s honestly your best result. My concern would be that the team is good enough to be drafting #5 overall or something and always miss the top prospect, in part because Barkley makes them good enough to win a few games.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/9 "2018-10-12T04:53:25Z")

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As I said in the Week 5 thread, as a Bengals fan, I am far more worried about the remaining two games against the Browns than ANY game remaining against the Steelers. The Stealers are a known commodity. This iteration of the Browns has talent.

I shouldn’t be surprised. Everyone has been watching them stockpile good talent, especially on defense, for years now. That they seem organizationally and from a coaching standpoint to FINALLY be in a position to start winning every game they play with a young QB, they’re fucking pulling it off. Fuckers. Now I have to go back to hating the Browns instead of penciling in a “W” for two weeks out of the schedule.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/10 "2018-10-12T05:05:23Z")

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Woop.

Nice that the Browns get the Clippers at home, since homefield is such a big deal in the east coast vs west coast battles. I like their chances.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/11 "2018-10-12T05:40:59Z")

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You owe your very name of your favorite team to the former owner/coach of your team to the current owner/family that owns the Bengals!

Only in a Browns fan’s mind is “Modell” a good word.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/12 "2018-10-12T05:50:59Z")

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I can’t even deal with that nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/13 "2018-10-12T12:20:45Z")

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If this season continues down the path it’s heading, Eli could have a sub .500 winning percentage for his career. I know winning percentage isn’t an ideal stat to measure QB performance, but for a 15 year starter I think it definitely measures… something. Just seems remarkable to me that it’s possible the Giants will have lost more games than they’ve won with Manning under center.

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**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/14 "2018-10-12T12:32:04Z")

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Time for the Giants to tear down and rebuild around Barkley.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/15 "2018-10-12T12:57:01Z")

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This is what you get when you listen to the fans. Eli should have been outed as a selfish player when he benched himself because Coach wanted to play the young guns at the end of a lost season.

Instead, a bunch of idiot fans jumped up and down about “disrespect” of their man Eli, and here we are. Enjoy your 3-13 record this year stuper-fans.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/16 "2018-10-12T13:06:08Z")

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Chargers are giving a point to the Browns in Cleveland in a 1:00 game. Always bet against the West coast teams travelling East and playing at 1:00. I think the Browns will win and I don’t know when the last time they won 2 in a row was, but I’m sure the TV people will tell us.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/17 "2018-10-12T14:53:01Z")

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Other than Barkley, the Giants looked really bad last night. OBJ is such a petulant three-year-old.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/18 "2018-10-12T18:33:06Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> That’s honestly your best result. My concern would be that the team is good enough to be drafting #5 overall or something and always miss the top prospect, in part because Barkley makes them good enough to win a few games.

Well, the Giants did get Eli with the #1 overall pick despite drafting #4.

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> This is what you get when you listen to the fans. Eli should have been outed as a selfish player when he benched himself because Coach wanted to play the young guns at the end of a lost season.

That’s not what happened, though. The fans wouldn’t have been so furious if they benched him for a young gun, whose name was Davis Webb. They were pissed that they benched him for Geno Smith, who was not a young gun and whose ability was already clearly measurable (and not good) by the many games he had started for the Jets.

Bench Eli during a lost season to see what the rookie they drafted can do? Yep, go for it. Bench Eli and then don’t play the young gun but instead the below-replacement-level journeyman because it “gives us the best chance to win”? Yeah, go fuck yourself.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/19 "2018-10-12T18:53:05Z")

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Eli Manning stinks, is selfish, and is hurting his team. Last year, the Giants drafted very high, and the quarterback class was deep, but they made the mistake of firing their coach for benching Manning after Manning became a martyr, and they spent the draft pick on a running back.

Now, this year, they’re 1-5 yet again with Manning producing miserable stats. He is 4-18 in his last 22 games, and even his coach was seen yelling, “Throw the ball!”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-6/822832/20 "2018-10-12T20:31:07Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I can’t even deal with that nonsense.

I was just kidding around.

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