# NFL WEEK 7: Minutes in Heaven **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 17, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911 "2019-10-17T18:31:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/81 "2019-10-22T03:57:05Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > Green Bay went from 1987 to 2007 without beating Kansas City. What was that you mentioned about “facts”? [All Matchups, Green Bay Packers vs. Kansas City Chiefs | Pro-Football-Reference.com](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=gnb&tm2=kan&yr=all) > [@](#): > > I believe the Packers won the last meeting between the teams but it had been a long time since a Packers win in that series before that so we’ll see how the next one goes. Did you read what I responded to? ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/82 "2019-10-22T04:07:11Z")
Does anyone think the 2019 Patriots can go 19-0? In 2007, the Patriots went 19-0. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/83 "2019-10-22T04:13:26Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > To be fair, R.W. isn’t the only quarterback and the Seahawks aren’t the only team in the N.F.L. that’ve “benefited” from the N.F.L.'s apparent goal of never letting another QB go down injured. As a matter of fact, Ziggy Ansah (a Seahawk) has the same thing happen to him in the TNF game against the Rams. He literally stumbled into Goff and hit him low, and it was only because he lost his balance. That actually turned a third down incompletion into a first down and led to an eventual touchdown. > **[Rams offense starts slow once again, finds rhythm before halftime](https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/03/nfl-rams-offense-seahawks-week-5/)** > > The Rams started slow, but Jared Goff led a great drive to end the half. So yes, it’s nothing special about protecting RW, who by the way gets hit badly often and refs miss it. Including a nasty head shot this year that drew no flag (but did later draw a fine). [https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article235233847.html](https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article235233847.html) ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/84 "2019-10-22T10:35:45Z")
Is the state of offensive line play really so poor? Winston, Mariota, Flacco, Dalton, Watson, and Kyler Murray have all been sacked over 20 times already, and Matt Ryan, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, and Josh Rosen have all recently been seen running for their lives. One of these guys is going to get killed out there. This is certainly not helping the development of Jones, Murray, Darnold and Rosen. Granted, a lot of these QB’s aren’t helping themselves a lot of the time, but still. You can’t protect Matt Ryan?! The guy was league MVP not that long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/85 "2019-10-22T13:12:06Z")
No, the Patriots lost the Super Bowl to the Giants. They went 18-1. The only team to have a perfect season and post season combined was the Miami Dolphins. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/86 "2019-10-22T14:33:02Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Does anyone think the 2019 Patriots can go 19-0? Not likely. They are 7-0, having averaged just under 32 points a game while allowing just under 7 - an impressive record. But their opponents in those games currently have a collective record of just 12-32 (27%), having collectively scored 453 fewer points than their opponents. Only one of those 7 teams - Buffalo - has a winning record, and the Pats were unconvincing against the Bills (score was 16-10). Their opponents in the 9 remaining games currently have a collective record of 28-32 (47%); five of these teams have a winning record. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/87 "2019-10-22T15:06:03Z")
The Pats just traded for Mohamed Sanu from Atlanta to beef up their receiver corps. > **[Patriots trade for WR Mohamed Sanu from Falcons](https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-trade-for-wr-mohamed-sanu-from-falcons-0ap3000001068463)** > > The Patriots are trading the Falcons for wide receiver Mohamed Sanu in exchange for a second-round draft pick, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Tuesday morning. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/88 "2019-10-22T22:35:06Z")
The 49ers traded for Emmanuel Sanders from Denver to beef up _their_ receiver corps. Terms: 49ers give a 3rd and a 4th Broncos give Sanders and a 5th [https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/10/22/20927358/49ers-trade-emmanuel-sanders-broncos](https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/10/22/20927358/49ers-trade-emmanuel-sanders-broncos) I love it. It’s a little pricey for a half-year rental, but it was a position of weakness on an otherwise great squad, especially with injuries. The 4th for the 5th isn’t much of a drop. If we don’t sign Sanders to an extension, we can get a comp pick. Another nice perk is that the Broncos run Shanahan’s offense essentially (their OC worked under Kyle the last three years), so terminology etc will make for a quick acclimation process. An undefeated, top-5 team just got better. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/89 "2019-10-23T01:14:27Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Does anyone think the 2019 Patriots can go 19-0? > > In 2007, the Patriots went 19-0. Dude (or Dudette…)… c’mon. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/90 "2019-10-23T01:16:34Z")
> **[Jets fuming Darnold's 'ghosts' remark made air](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27902846/jets-fuming-sam-darnold-seeing-ghosts-comment-made-air)** > > The Jets and coach Adam Gase were angry Tuesday that Sam Darnold's miked-up comment that he was "seeing ghosts" was aired on ESPN's Monday Night Football. Don’t the teams agree to be mic’d up? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/91 "2019-10-23T01:38:36Z")
> [@Sometimes you can't live for trying.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sometimes-you-cant-live-for-trying/114361/7): > > Don’t the teams agree to be mic’d up? Yes, but a representative from NFL Films is there to monitor what is recorded and block anything that would be embarrassing from getting out. In many people’s opinions, not just the Jets, they shouldn’t have let the “ghosts” comment on the air. In many other people’s opinion, the Jets should never have let Darnold be mic’d up. They need to have one player mic’d, but it doesn’t have to be the one asked for. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/92 "2019-10-23T09:44:58Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Yes, but a representative from NFL Films is there to monitor what is recorded and block anything that would be embarrassing from getting out. In many people’s opinions, not just the Jets, they shouldn’t have let the “ghosts” comment on the air. In many other people’s opinion, the Jets should never have let Darnold be mic’d up. They need to have one player mic’d, but it doesn’t have to be the one asked for. Ah, thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/93 "2019-10-23T19:39:27Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > The Pats just traded for Mohamed Sanu from Atlanta to beef up their receiver corps. > > [Patriots trade for WR Mohamed Sanu from Falcons](http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001068463/article/patriots-trade-for-wr-mohamed-sanu-from-falcons) > [@garygnu](#): > > The 49ers traded for Emmanuel Sanders from Denver to beef up _their_ receiver corps. > > Terms: > 49ers give a 3rd and a 4th > Broncos give Sanders and a 5th > > [https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/10/22/20927358/49ers-trade-emmanuel-sanders-broncos](https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/10/22/20927358/49ers-trade-emmanuel-sanders-broncos) > > I love it. It’s a little pricey for a half-year rental, but it was a position of weakness on an otherwise great squad, especially with injuries. The 4th for the 5th isn’t much of a drop. If we don’t sign Sanders to an extension, we can get a comp pick. > > Another nice perk is that the Broncos run Shanahan’s offense essentially (their OC worked under Kyle the last three years), so terminology etc will make for a quick acclimation process. > > An undefeated, top-5 team just got better. DAMNIT. Gute, you’ve let me down. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/94 "2019-10-23T20:08:08Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > In many people’s opinions, not just the Jets, they shouldn’t have let the “ghosts” comment on the air. In many other people’s opinion, the Jets should never have let Darnold be mic’d up. All of these people are idiots. Also idiots, anyone who is piling on Darnold for saying it. It’s a common saying in the NFL and was an honest assessment of what was going on out there. What’s the point of micing someone up if you can’t use audio of him explaining what went wrong on a play (or plays). It’s not some impeachable admission of incompetence any more than “I didn’t see that linebacker dropping into the flat” would be following an interception. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/95 "2019-10-23T20:51:52Z")
Josh Gordon placed on IR, he’s done for the year. Explains the Sanu trade. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/96 "2019-10-23T21:16:31Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Josh Gordon placed on IR, he’s done for the year. Explains the Sanu trade. Huh? ESPN just reported that Gordon is about able to return to the field and the IR designation is a way for the Patriots to release him and then Gordon could sign with another team. No idea what the IR rules are, but this seems way too clever by half. If he’s not still hurt, are the Pats trying to cover up another drug test by dumping him on IR? ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/97 "2019-10-23T21:30:13Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Does anyone think the 2019 Patriots can go 19-0? > > In 2007, the Patriots went 19-0. I seriously doubt it. Obviously going unbeaten for an entire N.F.L. season has been incredibly difficult, even for some of history’s very best teams. However, at this point I don’t see any other team from the A.F.C. keeping them from making it to a 4th straight S.B. next February. After nearly 20 years I will no longer dismiss that team’s chances of winning titles as long as B.B. and T.B. are still with the organization in their current capacities. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/98 "2019-10-23T21:47:23Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Josh Gordon placed on IR, he’s done for the year. Explains the Sanu trade. > [@racepug](#): > > I seriously doubt it. Obviously going unbeaten for an entire N.F.L. season has been incredibly difficult, even for some of history’s very best teams. However, at this point I don’t see any other team from the A.F.C. keeping them from making it to a 4th straight S.B. next February. After nearly 20 years I will no longer dismiss that team’s chances of winning titles as long as B.B. and T.B. are still with the organization in their current capacities. I just checked, the Pats week 17 game is against…the Dolphins!!! So, this is likely to be a completely meaningless game with the exception of the Pats trying to go unbeaten if they haven’t slipped and the Dolphins trying to avoid a winless season if they haven’t pulled out a win. I wonder how many guys for the Pats will get rested or limited playing time. Plus, the game is at New England so the Dolphins may rest some guys that are banged up if the weather is lousy. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/99 "2019-10-23T22:16:44Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > …and the Dolphins trying to avoid a winless season if they haven’t pulled out a win. Alternative reality, the Dolphins will be trying very hard to stay winless (or at least keep the worst record) if that’s necessary to lock up the 1st overall pick. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911/100 "2019-10-24T17:06:00Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I just checked, the Pats week 17 game is against…the Dolphins!!! So, this is likely to be a completely meaningless game with the exception of the Pats trying to go unbeaten if they haven’t slipped and the Dolphins trying to avoid a winless season if they haven’t pulled out a win. I wonder how many guys for the Pats will get rested or limited playing time. Plus, the game is at New England so the Dolphins may rest some guys that are banged up if the weather is lousy. Interestingly, in the 2007 season the Patriots final game was also meaningless for both teams. The Pats were obviously guaranteed the 1 seed, and their opponent was guaranteed the first wildcard slot/5th seed regardless of whether they won or lost. Didn’t stop both teams from playing their hearts out for a win. Their opponent, of course, was the Giants. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-minutes-in-heaven/841911.md?page=4)