# NFL WEEK 7 RBs Leaping

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [October 19, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804 "2023-10-19T19:07:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/1 "2023-10-19T19:07:46Z")

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Probably real life intruding but I didn’t see a Week 7 thread, so here it is!

Some things we learned: the Patriots are really that bad! The 49ers and Eagles are really good but not infallible! CJ Stroud is looking really good among this year’s crop of first round QBs!

Anyway, enough of that. Here are the games:

**Thursday Night Football**

Jacksonville Jaguars vs New Orleans Saints NO -1 (-110)

**Sunday, October 22nd, 2023**

**Early**

Detroit Lions vs Baltimore Ravens BAL -3  
Las Vegas Raiders vs Chicago Bears CHI +3  
Cleveland Browns vs Indianapolis Colts IND +3  
Buffalo Bills vs New England Patriots NE +8.5  
Washington Commanders vs New York Giants NYG +1.5  
Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers TB -2.5

**Late**

Pittsburgh Steelers vs LA Rams LAR -3  
Arizona Cardinals vs Seattle Seahawks SEA -7.5  
Green Bay Packers vs Denver Broncos GB -1  
LA Chargers vs Kansas City Chiefs KC -5.5

**Sunday Night Football**

Miami Dolphins vs Philadelphia Eagles PHI -2

**Monday Night Football**

San Francisco 49ers vs Minnesota Vikings SF -6.5

Bye: CIN / DAL / TEN / NYJ / CAR / HOU

The Sunday night game looks intriguing for sure while WSH at NYG is currently in the lead for Pillow Fight of the Week

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/2 "2023-10-19T19:15:06Z")

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Might actually be a decent game tonight.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/3 "2023-10-19T19:15:51Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> WSH at NYG is currently in the lead for Pillow Fight of the Week

“Come join us, odds are that one of them will win!”

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/4 "2023-10-19T19:53:03Z")

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Trevor Lawrence is listed as questionable for tonight’s game, while Derek Carr is expected to play. Perhaps that’s why the Saints are slight favorites tonight.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/5 "2023-10-19T22:12:54Z")

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Mahomes might be the punter for the Chiefs this weekend if their regular punter is still laid up with a knee injury. The biggest benefit, if this happens, is that the announcers would have some other inane topic to discuss besides TayTrav.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/6 "2023-10-19T22:19:38Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Mahomes might be the punter for the Chiefs this weekend if their regular punter is still laid up with a knee injury.

There’s some confusion regarding this piece of news. It was last week that Tommy Townsend (Chiefs punter) was listed as questionable with a knee injury. But he played against the Broncos and is listed as healthy for this week’s game against the Chargers.

The question was asked earlier this week who the backup punter would have been had Townsend not been able to play. And that’s when the coach answered that it was Mahomes. That’s also the reason that another punter wasn’t signed before last week’s game.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/7 "2023-10-19T22:28:32Z")

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Checking in on my NFL Draft predictions.

> [@2023 NFL Draft Thread - Fair to middling](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2023-nfl-draft-thread-fair-to-middling/983001/3):
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> Quick stream of consciousness.
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> I believe…  
> …Anthony Richardson should be the 1st overall pick. And I think it’s more likely than people think.  
> …Bryce Young will be a total bust. He’s gonna make Tua look like an Ironman.  
> …CJ Stroud is just a guy.  
> …Will Levis is actually going to be great. Go ahead and laugh, but if he falls outside the top 10 it’s a mistake.  
> …the Bears will not take a Tackle at #9.  
> …Zay Flowers is the best WR in this draft class.  
> …JSN is not.  
> …the Illinois defensive backfield was way better than I realized this year.  
> …Parris Johnson Jr. looks like any number of busts the Bears have drafted at OT over the years, please stay away Poles.  
> …Bijan Robinson isn’t nearly the prospect that Saquon was.  
> …Will Anderson will be pretty good, but he won’t be a gamechanger.  
> …Cedric Tillman would be a great get at the end of round 2.  
> …Lukas Van Ness is a super confusing prospect.  
> …Michael Mayer is a guy I’d love to have but not where he’s going to get drafted.  
> …Quentin Johnson is going to get overdrafted by 2 rounds because he’s the only non-midget out there.  
> …Rashee Rice is the bigger bodied WR you want to take a chance on instead.  
> …Zach Charbonnet is going to be terrible. He runs like a guy in a bad football movie.  
> …there will be more TEs drafted in the first 45 picks than WRs.  
> …Yaya Diaby is a delightful name to say.

So far I’m doing okay on my QB projections. Obviously too early to draw any solid conclusions, but I was mostly right about Richardson and Young. I seem to have undersold Stroud a bit. Levis hasn’t gotten any real time which is weird considering who is playing ahead of him. Let’s be generous and call that an incomplete.

The Bears in fact did not take a Tackle at #9. 🤦‍♂️ Thankfully we did stay away from Johnson.

Zay Flowers is the best WR in the class, I don’t think this is even a debate, though I guess Puka has to get a mention. The Illini are killing it. I may need to chalk that Bijan take up as a loss, though based solely on his usage that projection is still probably technically accurate. The Dope loves nothing more than being technically accurate.

Anderson is a worthy 1st round Edge, but maybe not worth trading up to #3 for. There’s still time. Tillman so far is a nothing (to the chagrin of my Dyansty team). Van Ness remains super confusing. Mayer slid all the way to the top of 2nd which was unexpected, however LaPorta taken just ahead of him is clearly the class of the class.

Johnson was overdrafted and Rice is the guy you probably want, certainly in Fantasy. Charbonnet is not showing much production, but he also doesn’t look like a total bust when on the field, so I’m prepared to take the L on this one. 5 WRs and 4 TE drafted in the first 45 picks, it was a long shot but still, this was a predictably terrible WR class. Our guy Yaya remains a delight.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/8 "2023-10-19T22:49:44Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> The question was asked earlier this week who the backup punter would have been had Townsend not been able to play. And that’s when the coach answered that it was Mahomes.

Ah, so it’s “news” for the sake of clicks. Shocking!

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/9 "2023-10-20T01:05:03Z")

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The Dolphins have pretty conclusively established that they are better than the bottom tier of the league.

But they haven’t beaten anybody good. They got mightily spanked by the one team - Buffalo - that is expected to go far in the playoffs.

So Sunday night is huge. The team is dialed in, and everybody’s in love with Coach McDaniel\*, but playing on the road in Philly is a huge undertaking. I’ll be happy if they keep it close; a win would be a surprise. I just don’t think Miami has the defensive chops to stop a top quarterback (although Jalen Ramsey’s return from injury is possibly going to be in November, ahead of schedule).

But if Miami comes in and makes a statement, then this week marks their arrival amongst Super Bowl contenders. The south Florida media has dubbed them “The greatest show on surf” - it would be fun if they lived up to the hype.

\*Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel is a great story. His football life starts when was 9 and living in Colorado. He used to spend his summers watching the Broncos in camp. He used to collect autographs, and figured out that players wouldn’t give him multiple signatures. So, he would wear a hat, the stash it and go back again, knowing the players wouldn’t recognize him.

One day, he couldn’t find his Charlotte Hornets hat. He asked a guy who worked for the team if it was in lost and found. The guy said no, but bought him a new hat next time he was there.

_This_ led McDaniel to introduce the guy to his mom. _This_ leads to the guy marrying McDaniel’s mother. _This_ leads to McDaniel becoming a ballboy for the Broncos.

He had an in.

Then, as a young man, he’s late to a team meeting with the Texans and gets fired. _This_ leads him to recognize his problems with alcohol, and a stint in rehab. He’s now sober.

He helped devise the offense run by the 49ers. He only ended up in Miami because they couldn’t lure Sean Payton (thank god!) and Denver didn’t even give him an interview.

He doesn’t yell or give rah-rah speeches. He’s cerebral. And funny. Incidentally, his father is black, so _technically_ he’s a minority hire. His players can talk to him - a Lombardi mold he is not.

Instead, he’s now the boy genius coach of a record setting offense, and (as I saw posted online) “Miami has their Shula.” My favorite coach.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/10 "2023-10-20T02:11:39Z")

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Wow. Amazon Prime video streaming sucks. I saw better streams 10 years ago. While watching the crappy pixelated mess that Amazon is serving up… I brought up 2 separate YouTube streams and they looked fine. Then I did a speedtest and got 180Meg download so I don’t think it’s my connection.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/11 "2023-10-20T02:27:39Z")

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Looks okay for me.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/12 "2023-10-20T02:30:55Z")

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I switched from the browser on my laptop to my Roku TV and it looks much better now. Guess it just didn’t like my browser. (couldn’t stream it at all in Firefox, streamed badly in Edge.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/13 "2023-10-20T02:32:59Z")

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Interesting. I’m using Firefox. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/14 "2023-10-20T02:44:35Z")

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I’m watching both on my Samsung Smart TV and on my laptop using Chrome. Both of the streams are just fine. However, the laptop is a good 60 seconds ahead of the TV.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/15 "2023-10-20T05:13:56Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Charbonnet is not showing much production, but he also doesn’t look like a total bust when on the field, so I’m prepared to take the L on this one.

He’s behind Kenneth Walker Jr so he’s not going to have a ton of opportunities as long as Walker is healthy. But he’s shown flashes of potential.

It’s far too early to tell either way. He doesn’t look like a bust but I’d say wait until the end of the season to judge him. I’ve seen lots of promising RBs who end up as nothing, especially if they get injured as a rookie and never recover (mentally more than physically).

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/16 "2023-10-20T05:15:42Z")

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Yeah, I haven’t been watching the games, but I have Walker on my fantasy team. Based on the scores he’s giving me, he seems to be here to kick ass and chew bubblegum and he’s all out of bubble gum.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/17 "2023-10-20T09:22:30Z")

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It is remarkable that 4 of Miami’s 5 wins have come against NE, DEN, NYG & CAR. Teams with a combined record of 3-21. Tyreek Hill is looking pretty good, but the schedule makers are the real MVP.

My prediction: they’ll win the east and be the 1 or 2 seed, but will get smoked in the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/18 "2023-10-20T14:53:05Z")

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The Butterfingers candy bar should have an ad campaign where they celebrate the worst pass drops of each week.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/19 "2023-10-20T15:01:54Z")

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I love the idea, I’m not sure that associating your product with failures is good advertising. Unless they frame it as something like, “You’re having a bad day, let’s cheer you up with a Butterfingers.” Then the “these guys have butterfingers” part can remain an unspoken tongue-in-cheek innuendo.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7-rbs-leaping/991804/20 "2023-10-21T00:44:15Z")

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> The Sunday night game looks intriguing for sure while WSH at NYG is currently in the lead for Pillow Fight of the Week

As a Washington fan, I’m officially offended. WSH ranks at least buckwheat pillow strength.

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