# NFL Week 7
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [October 17, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528 "2013-10-17T22:00:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/82 "2013-10-22T02:57:27Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> How come no one is ridiculing Bill Belichick for not knowing the rule changed about pushing lineman on a field goal try? There’s video evidence that his team has done this before in previous games, obviously they were being coached to do this. How come no one will question/ridicule Belichick like we ridiculed Schwartz for challenging that play not too long ago? We always ridicule ignorance of the rules, but Belichick skates. And I haven’t seen anyone in the media with this angle.
Because Belichick has won over 200 games and Schwartz hasn’t even won 30. Hate Belichick if you want, but after his accomplishments it takes more than a mistake like that for him to deserve ridicule.
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/83 "2013-10-22T03:15:24Z")
[Texans cut 3 players for smoking pot at team hotel](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9859855/houston-texans-cut-sam-montgomery-cierre-wood-willie-jefferson)
I think marijuana should be legal, but you have got to be a true knucklehead to smoke marijuana on a business trip in the hotel that your employer is paying for.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/84 "2013-10-22T03:26:23Z")
Boy this game is horrible. The only thing worth watching is the Giants run defense containing Adrian Peterson, but other than that, it’s just plain bad football. Good to see a change from Pewter to Purple hasn’t helped Josh Freeman’s suckitude.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/85 "2013-10-22T14:10:33Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The only thing worth watching is the Giants run defense containing Adrian Peterson, but other than that, it’s just plain bad football.
It’s much easier to contain Peterson when you know Freeman can’t throw the ball anywhere near the field. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an NFL QB throw that many passes that far out of bounds.
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### Author:  [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/86 "2013-10-22T15:14:09Z")
> [@Bob's Zombie](#):
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> It’s much easier to contain Peterson when you know Freeman can’t throw the ball anywhere near the field. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an NFL QB throw that many passes that far out of bounds.
And conversely, why are they throwing 50 times (with a new QB, no less) when they have Adrian Peterson on their team?
ETA: I take that back. I’d forgotten that Peterson’s 5-year-old child had just been murdered. I can understand not building the game around him.
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### Author:  [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/87 "2013-10-22T18:57:40Z")
Peterson’s murdered son was 2 years old. Admittedly anyone’s to be forgiven for experiencing difficulty in keeping up. Apparently there are somewhere between 5 and 7 depending on who you ask.
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### Author:  [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/88 "2013-10-22T19:12:20Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> ETA: I take that back. I’d forgotten that Peterson’s 5-year-old child had just been murdered. I can understand not building the game around him.
Was he even aware of that child?
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/89 "2013-10-22T22:39:55Z")
> [@Laggard](#):
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> Was he even aware of that child?
Yes, but not for very long and he’d never met him until he was in the ICU.
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/90 "2013-10-23T04:48:09Z")
Who will now defend Josh Freeman’s stats and honor?
🙂
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### Author:  [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/91 "2013-10-23T13:18:14Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Nothing happened to Kelly. Nick Foles was horrendous and none of the Eagles WRs could beat press man (they haven’t been able to for years). And when the Eagles had chances, Foles missed every time. Just an awful game from the offense. The first they’ve had, by the way.
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> I want to know what happened to Foles. He looked atrocious. He didn’t show me a single thing that makes me think he has a chance in this league. Very troubling after looking very good the week before.
Well, ESPN has them [sharing the blame](http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/57795/replay-shows-foles-kelly-were-that-bad), Foles for his decisions and Kelly for his failure in schemes and play calls.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/92 "2013-10-23T18:31:54Z")
The Vikings said Freeman was going to start again on Sunday despite that showing, but now they say he has a concussion and probably won’t play. So yeah.
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### Author:  [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/671528/93 "2013-10-23T21:41:35Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> How come no one is ridiculing Bill Belichick for not knowing the rule changed about pushing lineman on a field goal try? There’s video evidence that his team has done this before in previous games, obviously they were being coached to do this. How come no one will question/ridicule Belichick like we ridiculed Schwartz for challenging that play not too long ago? We always ridicule ignorance of the rules, but Belichick skates. And I haven’t seen anyone in the media with this angle.
Well, Belicheck’s comments show that he clearly knew the rule was passed this year, but he was going off of the NFL’s written and website guidance on the rule, which clearly stated that it was only a penalty for someone lined up at the second level. (The rules committee changed the rule to omit the bit about second level before passing it, but nobody at the league offices bothered to change the guidance, or the web site, until miraculously the web site was quietly with no notice changed a couple hours after the game Sunday).
I mean, sure, I guess a better coach would not believe the NFL’s guidance about their own rule book and go check the rule book directly, but were this a court case, the NFL would be facing an uphill battle making the penalty stick.
I suppose it’s also possible that people saw the video of the Jets pushing a teammate on a Patriot’s field goal attempt earlier in the game, and think that it’s hard to blame a coach for arguing a call against him that was not made against the other team in similar circumstances.
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