# NFL Week 7 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 16, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473 "2014-10-16T07:58:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/41 "2014-10-19T23:52:40Z")
Ugh, what an awful game from the Browns. The O-line is not okay. Coach Pettine did a bad job today. I think he had a Tin Cup moment, when Hoyer missed Cameron in the end zone and they had to settle for a FG to go up 6-0. I think missing out on the TD frustrated him, because the Browns were clearly better than Jax but couldn’t get into the endzone, so he gambled on 4th down instead of going up 9-0. If you gamble on 4th and short, you better be able to get it on the ground, but he clearly wasn’t confident they could do it and tried a play action pass, which failed. That fixation on trying to get back the missed TD changed the whole complexion of the game. They probably could have gutted out a 12-10 win if they had been a bit more conservative on offense. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/42 "2014-10-20T00:14:47Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Yes. If the offense substitutes, the defense must be allowed enough time to do the same. There was no doubt in my mind that it would be a Philly fan to answer. We’re experts. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/43 "2014-10-20T02:41:45Z")
Geez, this game is painful to watch. We’re going to run out of active players. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/44 "2014-10-20T09:31:30Z")
Geez, nothing here about Manning? Especially when someone upthread was talking about how SF would pants him? And then he not only broke Favre’s record, he made it look so easy that he only had to play three quarters. I thought it was hilarious when his teammates played keep-away with the record-setting football. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/45 "2014-10-20T10:52:54Z")
Bears. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/46 "2014-10-20T17:45:01Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Geez, nothing here about Manning? Especially when someone upthread was talking about how SF would pants him? And then he not only broke Favre’s record, he made it look so easy that he only had to play three quarters. > > I thought it was hilarious when his teammates played keep-away with the record-setting football. Crossover alert: If it had been an episode of law and Order, or Castle, or CSI, Manning would have been murdered before the game, and Favre would have been the chief suspect, because his record would have been broken, and obviously he jealously guards his record. TV writers really don’t understand sports people, do they? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/47 "2014-10-20T17:48:42Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Geez, nothing here about Manning? Especially when someone upthread was talking about how SF would pants him? And then he not only broke Favre’s record, he made it look so easy that he only had to play three quarters. > > I thought it was hilarious when his teammates played keep-away with the record-setting football. Manning breaks a new record every week. I love the guy, but frankly I only cared this time because this one was Favre’s (fuck that dude). The keep-away thing was hilarious. Especially because Manning played along. I will say, though, that I don’t like it when games are stopped to announce a record. The record is incidental; wait until the end. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/48 "2014-10-20T18:18:00Z")
Washington fans are united behind the unbeatable Colt McCoy; 11-5 and Super Bowl bound! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/49 "2014-10-20T18:29:05Z")
QUOTE=Tom Tildrum;17830820]Washington fans are united behind the unbeatable Colt McCoy; 11-5 and Super Bowl bound! [/QUOTE] A couple more games like that and I [might even win that bet I didn’t quite make five years ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=546308&highlight=mccoy&page=2). After Sunday, McCoy’s career QB rating is 76.1; Sam Bradford’s is 79.3 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/50 "2014-10-20T18:39:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > A couple more games like that and I [might even win that bet I didn’t quite make five years ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=546308&highlight=mccoy&page=2). After Sunday, McCoy’s career QB rating is 76.1; Sam Bradford’s is 79.3 😃 The most prescient quote from that thread? [QUOTE=VarlosZ] Bradford’s floor is still “Franchise-Murdering Bust.” [/QUOTE] Poor Rams. Wrong set of players and wrong CBA to have that particular draft pick. At least they’ve looked decent-ish this year. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/51 "2014-10-20T18:41:10Z")
Well, he was still better than JaMarcus Russell. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/52 "2014-10-20T19:54:44Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Geez, nothing here about Manning? Especially when someone upthread was talking about how SF would pants him? And then he not only broke Favre’s record, he made it look so easy that he only had to play three quarters. > > I thought it was hilarious when his teammates played keep-away with the record-setting football. I did too, until I learned that not only did he ask them to do that, he actually had them practice it ahead of time. That’s…tacky. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/53 "2014-10-20T19:57:57Z")
Man, Deadspin ruins everything. Though Manning [says](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24760525/peyton-manning-planned-keepaway-gag-with-teammates-last-week) it wasn’t quite as orchestrated as all that. > [@](#): > > “Well, sort of,” Manning told [theMMQB.com](http://theMMQB.com). “We were playing around on Saturday, and they were doing it to me then, and of course I am the stiff and I can’t keep up, but I didn’t think in the game they would actually do it.” They did it.” ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/54 "2014-10-20T21:37:54Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Oh, sorry – I thought you meant the Bailey return. I didn’t know about the fake until just now. > > Holy Shit, that was ballsy. Not really ballsy, they have done it 5 times with Hekker. The man has a 4 of 5 completions for 60 yards and 1 TD and a 156 career QB rating. 🙂 The punt fakeout with Austin and Bailey was a thing of beauty. They fooled the camera, they fooled the gunners, they even fooled the punter who kicked the damn ball! ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/55 "2014-10-20T22:06:44Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Not really ballsy, they have done it 5 times with Hekker. The man has a 4 of 5 completions for 60 yards and 1 TD and a 156 career QB rating. Yeah, really ballsy. Even if you assume an 80% likelihood of success (which I wouldn’t), that means 20% chance of the play failing, the Rams almost certainly losing, and Fisher being crucified in the media. If they punt it away, they still probably lose, but the criticism directed at Fisher personally would be much less. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/56 "2014-10-20T22:23:22Z")
When you are 1-5 (and probably actually not that bad), you try things you might not try if you are not coming up short all the time. Years ago, I remember seeing the FG kicker for a struggling team catch a TD pass on a trick play. “Ballsy” is when it works, “desperate” is when it fails. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/57 "2014-10-21T01:03:59Z")
Did I just hear “this kid is interested in hexagrams and the binary code”? ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/58 "2014-10-21T01:54:14Z")
That may have been the beardiest pass and interception since the 70s. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/59 "2014-10-21T01:56:13Z")
Hexagrams as in the i ching? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473/60 "2014-10-21T01:58:10Z")
I’ve been watching football for more than 40 years, and I can’t recall a meltdown quite like the one I just watched. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-7/701473.md?page=4)